John and Gordy drain their brains in hour two, with a caller who suggests that MAGA and fact-deniers are doing just that, and rubbing off on the rest of us. We shift to talking about Social Security, the agency which is now calling (living) people dead to cut their benefits (!). We check in with Brittney Merlot, our WMDX meteorologist for a look at the weather, and later, we chat with Paul Soglin, former Madison Mayor, getting his hottest political takes. He touches on deregulation over the years of cable TV in Madison, and how it destroyed public access media, as well as the larger general trend of pre-Trump deregulation in the early 2000s. We also shift gears to talk about the state of politics, as major federal departments are being shut down. Paul gives his opinion on how he thinks the chips will fall.

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