Today, Hunter was joined by Max Miner the Founder of Executive Treatment Solutions. At one point in his life, Max hit rock bottom. Suffering with drug addiction, he reached the point where it thought it would be a good idea to get into a shootout with police officers. In a moment of clarity, he put down the weapon and started his road to recovery. Thanks to the work of an attorney who understood the power of pre-trial mitigation work, Max was able to get sober and avoid jail time. Now, Max works with people, who like him, need non-carceral treatment plans to help them escape the criminal legal system.

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Max Miner, Founder, Executive Treatment Solutions

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Today, Hunter was joined by Alex Flood and Dan Fitzgerald of the Denver Municipal Public Defender Office. Today's episode focuses on the holistic public defender model in the office that leans on the expertise of lawyers, social workers, and system impacted people to combat the City's efforts to punish poverty.

Guest:

Alex Flood, Public Defender, Denver Municipal Public Defender Office

Dan Fiztgerald, Peer Support Specialist, Denver Municipal Public Defender Office

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Today, Hunter was joined by Jessie Lenhardt, a Management Consultant with Moss Adams. In her time as a consultant, Jessie has helped countless government agencies, including public defenders, improve the organization structures and practices. Today, she joins the show to discuss on her reflections in helping public defender offices implement workload studies.

Guest:

Jessie Lenhardt, Senior Manager, Moss Adams

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Today, Hunter was joined by Olivia Miller and Dallas Anselmo of the Clark County Public Defender Office. They joined to discuss the "corridor court" operating along the Las Vegas Strip. This specialty court, created at the urging of the casinos and resorts, funnels criminal defendants into a singular court room where people can be effectively banished from the entirety of the strip for seemingly minor crimes. In doing so, the corridor court gives casinos the power to unfairly police poverty along the strip.

As a note, the views expressed on today's show by Olivia and Dallas are their own and do not necessarily reflect the view of the Clark County Public Defender Office.

Guest:

Dallas Anselmo, Public Defender, Clark County, Nevada

Olivia Miller, Public Defender, Clark County, Nevada

Resources:

Learn More about the office

https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/government/departments/public_defender/

Learn More about the Courts

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/vegas-resorts-want-to-revive-court-geared-at-cleaning-up-strip-critics-say-it-was-a-failure

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/critics-say-this-court-program-targeted-the-homeless-heres-why-strip-casinos-want-it-back-3530051/

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2025/nov/13/nevada-lawmakers-revisit-court-that-barred-offende/

https://mynorthwest.com/national/nevada-governor-signs-sweeping-crime-bill-as-state-looks-to-boost-tourism/4167419

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Today, Hunter wraps up 2025 with one last episode!

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Resources:

Top 10 Episodes of 2025

334 | Was a Former Colorado Public Defender Fired for Raising Concerns over his Workload? w/Travis Weiner

335 | How Sec Def Austin Interfered with the 9/11 and U.S.S. Cole Case Plea Deals w/Allison Miller and Katie Carmon

336 | How the San Mateo Private Defender Program is Trying to Earn Back the Community's Trust w/Lisa Maguire and Harpreet Samra

328 | How the Laken Riley Act Could Get Innocent People Sent to Guantanamo Bay w/Ann Block and Nithya Nathan-Pineau

331 | How the Far West Texas Public Defenders Uncovered a Pattern of Discovery Violations in El Paso w/James McDermott and Paul Chambers

333 | How The American Eugenics Movement Helped Create Habitual Offender Laws w/Daniel Loehr

355 | How Missouri Public Defenders are Leading the Nation In Statewide Holistic Defender Services w/Missouri Public Defenders

322 | The Impact of and the Resistance to Mass Deportation Policies w/Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas

400 | Why the Lawyers Handling 80% of Massachusetts's Public Defender Cases Stopped Taking New Cases w/Shira Diner

316 | The Everyday Cruelty in Westminster Municipal Court w/Alison Gordon

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Today, Hunter was joined by Mohammed Al Rawi and Ryan Wolfe of ZLS.App. The three discussed how ZLS is helping public defenders improve case management with automated systems. With better case management systems, public defenders are better equipped to collect and track the data that public defenders need to justify their requests to the legislatures.

Guest:

Mohammed Al Rawi, Co-Founder. ZLS.app

Ryan Wolfe, Co-Founder, ZLS.app

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Today, Hunter was joined by the new Chief Public Defender for the state of Missouri, Matthew Crowell. Matthew and Hunter discussed a range of topics that Matthew is now facing as the Chief and how he hopes to tackle them.

Guest:

Matthew Crowell, Chief Public Defender, Missouri

Resources:

Contact the Missouri Public Defender Here

https://publicdefender.mo.gov/

Lawsuit

https://www.aclu-mo.org/en/news/advocates-sue-missouri-department-mental-health-failing-treat-pretrial-detainees-living-mental

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Today, Hunter was joined once again by Stanislaus County Chief Public Defender Jennifer Jennison. Last time she was one the show, Jennifer detailed how she made the decision to make her office unavailable for new cases because of the unethical workload in her office. Now, Jennifer is back to tell us what came of that decision and what is next for the office.

Guest:

Jennifer Jennison, Chief Public Defender, Stanislaus County, California

Resources:

Modesto Bee Reporting

https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article288551423.html

Stanislaus County Public Defender

https://www.stancounty.com/publicdefender/

OSPD Reporting on Public Defense in California

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Today, Hunter was joined by Bolts Magazine staff writer, Lauren Gill. Back in September, Lauren authored a remarkable piece about how a small county in rural Arkansas responded to the threat of a new prison being built in their back yard.

Guest:

Lauren Gill, Staff Writer, Bolts Mag

Resources:

Check Out Lauren's Work

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https://boltsmag.org/authors/lauren-gill/

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Today, Hunter was joined by Greg Egan and John Choi. For the first time on the show, a Public Defender and the District Attorney join the show at the same time to describe how their collaborative efforts have improved public safety without mass incarceration.

Guest:

Greg Egan, Public Defender, Ramsey County, Minnesota

John Choi, Elected District Attorney, Ramsey County, Minnesota

Resources:

Contact John

https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/leadership/county-attorneys-office/meet-john-j-choi

https://www.ramseycountymn.gov/your-government/leadership/county-attorneys-office

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linkedin.com/in/greg-egan-2a5a5359

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We Resolve

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