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On December 1, 2024, as Ashtabula Area City Schools educators and students were out on Thanksgiving break, five and a half feet of snow covered Lakeside High School, causing the roof to collapse. One year later, the Lakeside school community is still waiting for a path forward to begin rebuilding. As the Thanksgiving break approaches again, Lakeside educators are sharing their stories about managing the challenges of serving their students in these difficult circumstances and about the support they've received to stay Lakeside Strong.

WATCH | As the one year anniversary of the roof collapse approached, Lakeside High School educators brought us into their classrooms - still spread out across four buildings in the district - and inside the Lakeside High School building to see the devastation firsthand. Click here to see the Ohio School Spotlight video. And, click here to watch the powerful Lakeside Strong Documentary, created by Lakeside High School students in spring 2025. 

THE LATEST | After a bond issue on the November 2025 ballot to rebuild Lakeside High School did not pass, Ashtabula Area City Schools Superintendent told the Star Beacon the district will continue to pursue avenues to get students back into the high school as soon as possible.  Separately, AACS filed a lawsuit against Liberty Mutual Insurance over its refusal to pay claims for repairs.

 
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Featured Public Education Matters guests: 

• Maureen Surbella, Ashtabula Area Teachers Association President
  • Maureen A. Surbella is a seasoned educator, coach, and leader with more than 30 years of experience in teaching and community involvement. She holds a Bachelor’s in Elementary Education from Walsh University and a Master’s in Effective Teaching from Lake Erie College. Currently, Maureen serves as a Title 1 Teacher and the District Communication/PR Liaison for Ashtabula Area City Schools, where she is committed to improving student outcomes and fostering positive communication between the district and the community.
  • Alongside her teaching role, Maureen has been the Head Swim Coach at Ashtabula Area City Schools since 2011, and has also coached tennis and volleyball. Recently, Maureen was elected as the President of the Ashtabula Area Teachers Association, where she works to support and advocate for the district’s educators. Maureen's extensive experience in education and athletics, combined with her leadership and communication skills, make her a well-rounded advocate for both students and teachers. She is a member of several professional organizations, including the National Education Association and the Ohio High School Coaches Association.
• Tyler Wilber, Ashtabula Area Teachers Association member
  • Tyler Wilber is proud to teach at Lakeside High School, the same district where he graduated. With over 25 years of experience in Ashtabula Area City Schools, he has dedicated his career to helping students learn, grow, and reach their potential. He currently teaches American History, Geography, and Esports & Gaming. In addition to the classroom, he serves as one of the Building Technology Representatives and the Building Testing Coordinator, supporting both staff and students. He also enjoys coaching as the Assistant Boys Golf Coach and has previously coached football and track & field. As a proud product of the Ashtabula school system, Wilber takes great pride in giving back to his community and inspiring the next generation of students.
• Jostalyn Krider, Ashtabula Area Teachers Association member
  • Jostalyn Krider is in her sixteenth year of teaching mathematics at Lakeside High School in Ashtabula, Ohio. She currently teaches Algebra 2 Honors, Algebra 2 College Prep, AP Calculus, and Drone Technology. In addition to her classroom duties, Mrs. Krider serves as Co-Chair of the Mathematics Department and advises the Robotics Club.
    She is dedicated to helping students connect mathematics to real-world applications through technology and innovation. Her integration of STEM concepts—especially in drone technology and robotics—reflects her commitment to preparing students for success in a rapidly evolving, technology-driven world. Mrs. Krider is recognized for her leadership, collaboration, and passion for inspiring curiosity and problem-solving in her students.
• David Roth, Ashtabula Area Teachers Association member
  • David P. Roth has been educating Future Musicians for over 30 years, having taught in Wyoming, Florida, and Ohio. He holds a Bachelor's in Music Education from Kent State University and a Master's in Music Education from The University Of Akron. Currently, David is the Instrumental Music Director at Lakeside High School and Erie Intermediate School, teaching Band and Orchestra to 5th and 6th Graders, and Band, Orchestra, and Jazz to 9th through 12 Grade Students. Through a solid educational foundation, and memorable and enriching performances, Mr. Roth continues to guide Lakeside's Young Musicians to constantly push and improve themselves, while learning more about the world and the World of Music.
  • In addition to his teaching roles, David has been the Advisor for the school's Tri-M Music Honor Society (8 Years), National Honor Society (6 Years), and Key Club (3 Years), as well as a Past Membership Chair and current Building Representative for the Ashtabula Area City Schools. David is also an active member of the National Association for Music Education, the Ohio Music Education Association (where he serves as Webmaster for District 5), the American School Band Directors Association, and Life Member of Kappa Kappa Psi National Honor Band Fraternity. Recently, Mr. Roth was nominated for and selected as a Quarter-Finalist for the Grammy Music Educator Award in 2024.
• Douglas Wetherholt, Lakeside High School Principal
  • With more than 33 years experience in education, Doug Wetherholt has had the privilege of serving as a principal for the past 17 years. 
    Wetherholt is a proud graduate of Ashtabula High School, where his passion for education was ignited. He pursued his Bachelor's degree at Kent State University, and later, earned his Master's degree from Youngstown State University. These educational milestones have been instrumental in shaping his educational philosophy and a...

Kelsie Bullock is a small-town teacher making a big impact - and proving that every student deserves to belong. A few years ago, she started a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Club for her Morgan County high school students.  Now, as political attacks threaten programs like hers, Bullock and her students are standing strong, creating a safe space where everyone can connect across differences and feel proud of who they are - no exceptions.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS | Take a listen to NEA's School Me podcast for a discussion with Alice O’Brien, general counsel for the National Education Association, as she walks through your rights, risks, and opportunities to push back against anti-equality policies and fear tactics: A Lawyer Explains: "DEI" and Anti-Equity Policies in Schools | NEA || OEA members with questions are urged to contact their Labor Relations Consultant for guidance

ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL | Click here for information from NEA about several recent court rulings impacting inclusive education in public schools.

• In February, 2025, the US Department of Education issued a Dear Colleague Letter threatening schools and colleges across the country with the loss of federal funding in a matter of days if they continued to pursue vaguely defined “DEI programs.” 
• The National Education Association, ACLU, and others filed a lawsuit to block enforcement of this directive, saying 'the Letter radically resets ED’s longstanding positions on civil rights laws that guarantee equality and inclusion and impermissibly infringes on the authority of states and school districts over public education, as well as the First Amendment rights of educators and students. 
• In April, a federal judge granted a preliminary injunction, preventing the US Department of Education from enforcing the directive while litigation continues. Read NEA's statement on the court ruling here: Federal court grants preliminary injunction against Department of Education’s unlawful directive | NEA

HERE IN OHIO | Ohio lawmakers continue to propose legislation to ban diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and offices in K-12 schools, extending the DEI ban they enacted on college campuses with SB 1 earlier this year. Click here to see recent news coverage.

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Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Kelsie Bullock, Morgan Local Education Association member
  • A biology and marine biology teacher at Morgan High School in McConnelsville, Kelsie Bullock enjoys listening to music, judging gymnastics, doing jiu jitsu and spending time with my husband and dogs.  
  • A Newark, Ohio, native, Bullock grew up doing gymnastics and loving animals. These two loves directed her towards attending Ohio State for their vet program and coaching gymnastics through her time in college. She quickly realized, once starting college, that becoming a vet was not for her. She thought back on her life and realized that she has always been somewhat of a teacher to her younger sisters, her teammates, and her school peers. This, coinciding with her coaching, led her to realize that she may want to be a teacher. So she switched her major to zoology with a focus in anatomy and physiology, something she wanted to teach at the time. 
  • After graduating with her first degree, Bullock had a few hiccups for her licensure and ultimately ended up going back to Ohio State to get her bachelors in life science education. During this second degree program, she took an equity and diversity class that she attributes to her turning point in life. She learned so much about the history and culture of marginalized groups in the US and it opened her eyes. From that point on, she has been dedicated to learning and serving to help marginalized groups.
  • Bullock enjoys her job, which allows her to actively express her D.E.I passion while also teaching about a topic she truly loves. She gets to help students learn in more ways than one. 
     

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About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on September 15, 2025.

Ironton Education Association President Daniel Murphy and his fellow educators in their rural community live in a deep red part of Ohio - Donald Trump won 75% of the vote in Lawrence County in 2024. But Murphy says partisan labels mean nothing when it comes to making sure rural students' needs are met. In this episode, he shares what he wants all lawmakers to understand about the challenges facing rural schools. He also shares his message to his local members about the importance of electing pro-public education leaders, regardless of political party.

SEE WHERE YOUR LAWMAKERS STAND | Click here to see how your representatives in the Ohio House and Senate vote on public education issues with the OEA Legislative Scorecard tool.

DONATE TO THE OEA FUND | The OEA Fund is the state political action committee (PAC) for members of the Ohio Education Association. It is funded with voluntary donations from OEA members, members’ families, and OEA staff to support pro-public education, pro-labor candidates, regardless of political affiliation or anything else. Dues funds are never used to make contributions to candidates or political parties.

SUBSCRIBE | Click here to subscribe to Public Education Matters on Apple Podcasts or click here to listen on Spotify so you don't miss a thing. You can also find Public Education Matters on many other platforms. Click here for some of those links so you can listen anywhere. And don't forget you can listen to all of the previous episodes anytime on your favorite podcast platform, or by clicking here.

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Daniel Murphy, Ironton Education Association President
  • Daniel is a proud father, first and foremost. To his children, Jasmine and Kingston, he is a hero, a teacher, and a source of unconditional love. It is from this foundational role that his mission to nurture, protect, and empower others flows. As a Physical Education teacher at Ironton Middle School, he has spent the last decade channeling that paternal energy into the gymnasium and onto the playing fields, understanding that building strong character is just as important as building strong bodies.
  • But his classroom has no walls. For twenty years, he has been a pillar on the football field, coaching at multiple levels. In the grit and grind of practice, he has taught young athletes about discipline, teamwork, and resilience—lessons that extend far beyond the final whistle. This same unwavering dedication is offered to his faith community, where he serves as a deacon, providing spiritual guidance and support.
  • Recognizing that his duty of care extended to the very colleagues who shape Ironton’s future, he stepped into a new role three years ago as President of the Ironton Education Association. Here, he found a new arena for his passion. The same fire he brings to his students, his players, and his church, he now brings to serving his union members every single day.
  • His mission is clear and profound: to better the work environment and culture for everyone involved in the Ironton City Schools District. He fights not just for teachers, but for the dedicated support staff, the students they all serve, and the entire ecosystem that makes education possible. He understands that a thriving school is built on respect and fairness for all.
  • His guiding light in this work is a powerful conviction, echoed in one of his favorite quotes from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter.”
  • He has chosen a life of purposeful noise. He is not silent about fair treatment. He is not silent about safe and supportive schools. He is not silent about the things that matter to his family, his students, his fellow educators, and his community.
  • Through his roles as a father, teacher, coach, deacon, and union leader, he demonstrates that true impact is measured not by a single grand gesture, but by the sum of a thousand daily commitments. He is a builder—of stronger bodies, sharper minds, fairer workplaces, and a more compassionate community. His story is a powerful reminder that one person’s dedicated life can be the catalyst for a better world for all.
     

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About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on September 11, 2025.

When Ohio lawmakers began signaling their intention to break their promise to finish fully and fairly funding our public schools in the latest state budget, a lot of Ohioans were left feeling disappointed and downtrodden. Jessica Harper was left feeling mad. The Jackson City Education Association President turned that anger into action, bringing together her fellow educators and community members from around the region for a big rally for public school funding in the spring. Now, as the fight for fair school funding continues in the new school year, Harper is not backing down.

LEADING OUR UNION |Click here to check out Jessica Harper's column in the June-July issue of the Ohio Schools magazine.

MID-CAREER EDUCATORS UNITE | While Jessica Harper is on the cusp of entering the mid-career range in the education profession, other mid-career educators are coming together now within the Ohio's New Educators (ONE) department to ensure all Ohio educators in the second decade of the career have the support they need to thrive. 

• Check out our episode on the mid-career pilot program from earlier this season. 
• Sign up to take part in a world cafe in early November for mid-career educators and education support professionals at all stages of their career here. 

 
SUBSCRIBE | Click here to subscribe to Public Education Matters on Apple Podcasts or click here to listen on Spotify so you don't miss a thing. You can also find Public Education Matters on many other platforms. Click here for some of those links so you can listen anywhere. And don't forget you can listen to all of the previous episodes anytime on your favorite podcast platform, or by clicking here.

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Jessica Harper, Jackson City Education Association President
  • Jessica Harper is beginning her tenth year in the classroom in the Jackson City School District, where she serves as the president of the Jackson City EA.  Jessica recently began her first term on the OEA Board of Directors and is also on the Southeastern Ohio EA Executive Committee as the Jackson County Representative.  Her overall goals as a leader in her local are to keep membership numbers steady, become more visible to the public so educators can gain support from the community, and strengthen the local union by continuing to foster effective communication and activism.  

Connect with OEA:

• Email [email protected] with your feedback or ideas for future Public Education Matters topics
• Like OEA on Facebook
• Follow OEA on Twitter
• Follow OEA on Instagram
• Get the latest news and statements from OEA here
• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on August 26, 2025.

As Columbus Education Association member Shanette Strickland puts it: "If you can manage 6th, 7th, and 8th graders, adults are no problem." Educators have many transferrable skills needed to be effective leaders in their local city governments. Strickland, who is currently the Reynoldsburg City Council President and running for Reynoldsburg Auditor in the upcoming General Election, shares her journey to local leadership and her career in education, as well as her advice for other educators who are thinking about running for office.

SUBSCRIBE | Click here to subscribe to Public Education Matters on Apple Podcasts or click here to listen on Spotify so you don't miss a thing. You can also find Public Education Matters on many other platforms. Click here for some of those links so you can listen anywhere. And don't forget you can listen to all of the previous episodes anytime on your favorite podcast platform, or by clicking here.

THE POWER OF ONE | To learn more about the Ohio's New Educators group and how you can get involved with this group of educators in the first ten years of their careers, click here.

SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK | If you'd like to share your thoughts on the Public Education Matters podcast, including your ideas for what you'd like to hear on future episodes, please email [email protected].

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Shanette Strickland, Columbus Education Association member
  • Shanette Mobley Strickland is a dedicated public servant, business owner, educator, and advocate for fiscal integrity, currently serving as the President of the Reynoldsburg City Council. In this role, she has been instrumental in fostering collaboration, driving initiatives for transparency, and championing policies that promote economic growth and inclusivity.
    She envisions Reynoldsburg as the premier destination in Ohio for residents and businesses alike, focusing on strategic investments that enhance infrastructure, technology, and community well-being.
  • Building on her leadership experience, Shanette is now a candidate for City Auditor in the November 2025 election. She aims to bring her expertise in information technology, project management, and financial oversight to the Auditor’s office, ensuring fiscal responsibility, transparency, and accountability in the city’s financial operations. Her commitment to ethical
    governance and responsible budgeting will help Reynoldsburg navigate challenges while seizing opportunities for sustainable growth.
  • In addition to her public service, Shanette is an educator, teaching information technology to students in Columbus City Schools, where she is passionate about preparing the next generation for careers in technology and innovation. She understands firsthand the importance of education, workforce development, and equipping young people with the
    skills needed for success in a rapidly evolving economy.
  • Shanette’s leadership extends beyond public office. She and her husband, Chris Strickland, run The Source Group LLC, a technology company that focuses on innovation, digital strategy, and business solutions. As entrepreneurs, they understand the importance of economic empowerment, job creation, and leveraging technology to drive progress.
    A first-generation college graduate, Shanette holds a Bachelor of Science in Technical Management from DeVry University and a Master of Business Administration from Franklin University. Her personal journey underscores her commitment to education and mentorship, inspiring her work in empowering underserved and underrepresented communities.
  • With over 25 years of experience in information technology and 12 years in project management, Shanette brings a strategic, data-driven approach to governance. She has held leadership roles in organizations such as the Reynoldsburg Football Parent Association, Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, and Charms Inc. Columbus Chapter, serving as Financial
    Secretary and National Recording Secretary. A fierce advocate for social justice, she has championed initiatives promoting inclusion, particularly for young African American males, and remains a steadfast voice for the disenfranchised, underserved, and overlooked. In 2019, Shanette made history as one of the first three African American women elected
    to the Reynoldsburg City Council, marking a transformative moment for the city's leadership. She resides in Reynoldsburg with her husband of 24 years, Chris Strickland, and their two sons, Chris II and Shon.

Connect with OEA:

• Email [email protected] with your feedback or ideas for future Public Education Matters topics
• Like OEA on Facebook
• Follow OEA on Twitter
• Follow OEA on Instagram
• Get the latest news and statements from OEA here
• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on October 21, 2025.

After years of refusing to have the state pay its fair share of the cost of running Ohio's public schools and forcing local property tax payers to carry a bigger load to make up the difference, Ohio lawmakers are pushing a number of property tax changes that could slash revenues for school districts with devastating impacts on Ohio's public school students. So, what can the state actually do to provide meaningful property tax relief without doing so on the backs of our public schools? In Part 2 of this special two-part conversation, we take a look at the potential property tax reforms Ohio lawmakers could enact if they were really interested in something beyond short-sighted Band aid fixes.

LISTEN TO PART 1 | Click here to hear the first half of the conversation with Dr. Howard Fleeter, where we dive into the history and impact of Ohio's property tax laws and the state policy changes that have fueled the rise in local property tax bills in recent years. This is incredibly important context about how we got here, so we can figure out what needs to be done now. If you have not listened to Part 1, please go back and listen to it now.

TAKE ACTION | House Bill 186 is one of several property tax bills making its way through the General Assembly right now. But, the substitute version of HB 186 under consideration would result in a huge, devastating funding cut for hundreds of Ohio school districts, especially in rural communities. Click here to see how your district would be impacted and to tell your lawmaker to oppose the amended version of HB 186.

READ THE REPORT | Learn more in the Ohio Education Policy Insitute's new 'Analysis of Residential Property Taxes in Ohio: A Balanced Approach to Reform'

INTO THE ARCHIVES | Dr. Fleeter was a Public Education Matters guest way back in the first season of this podcast as we worked to understand Ohio's school funding formula - or lack thereof back at that point. Click here to listen.

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Dr. Howard Fleeter, economist and Ohio Education Policy Institute consultant
  • Dr. Howard B. Fleeter received his Ph.D in Economics from the University of California, Berkeley in 1990.  He was a faculty member in the School of Public Policy and Management at Ohio State University from 1989-1999, where he taught courses in Public Sector Economics, Public Finance, and State and Local Government Finance.  He was a four-time recipient of the School’s “Faculty of the Year” award for excellence in teaching.  Dr. Fleeter was also a faculty member in the School of Education at the University of Massachusetts Amherst from 1999-2001, where he taught courses in the Economics of Education and School Finance. 
  • Dr. Fleeter's research has focused on issues of education finance, education policy, and state and local tax policy and he is the author of numerous policy studies and academic journal articles on these topics.  Since his 1992 report, "Equity, Adequacy and Reliability in Ohio Education Finance" for Governor Voinovich's Education Management Council he has been one of the state’s leading experts on Education Finance.  He has worked extensively with Ohio education policy-makers to improve the state's school funding system for more than 25 years.  He is currently the owner of the state and local government finance and tax policy consulting firm Howard Fleeter & Associates and serves as a research consultant on education finance and policy issues for the Ohio Education Policy Institute.  

Connect with OEA:

• Email [email protected] with your feedback or ideas for future Public Education Matters topics
• Like OEA on Facebook
• Follow OEA on Twitter
• Follow OEA on Instagram
• Get the latest news and statements from OEA here
• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on October 7, 2025.

For years, the Ohio legislature has pushed to have the state pay a smaller and smaller share of the cost of running Ohio's public schools, placing a bigger and bigger burden on local property taxpayers to make up the difference. Now, Ohio lawmakers are pushing a whole raft of property tax reform bills, many with potentially disastrous consequences for public school students across the state. So, what can the state actually do to provide meaningful property tax relief without doing so on the backs of the public schools that serve 90 percent of students in our state? To understand where we should go from here, we have to understand how we got to this pressure point. In Part 1 of this special two-part conversation, we take a deeper dive into how Ohio's property taxes work and what's driving a spike in property tax bills in recent years.

LISTEN TO PART 2 |Click here to hear the second half of the conversation with Dr. Howard Fleeter, where we look at what the state could do to enact potential property tax policy changes without devastating Ohio's public schools.

TAKE ACTION | House Bill 186 is one of several property tax bills making its way through the General Assembly right now. But, the substitute version of HB 186 under consideration would result in a huge, devastating funding cut for hundreds of Ohio school districts, especially in rural communities. Click here to see how your district would be impacted and to tell your lawmaker to oppose the amended version of HB 186. 

READ THE REPORT | Learn more in the Ohio Education Policy Insitute's new 'Analysis of Residential Property Taxes in Ohio: A Balanced Approach to Reform'

INTO THE ARCHIVES | Dr. Fleeter was a Public Education Matters guest way back in the first season of this podcast as we worked to understand Ohio's school funding formula - or lack thereof back at that point. Click here to listen.

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Dr. Howard Fleeter, economist and Ohio Education Policy Institute consultant
  • Dr. Howard B. Fleeter received his Ph.D in Economics from the University of California, Berkeley in 1990.  He was a faculty member in the School of Public Policy and Management at Ohio State University from 1989-1999, where he taught courses in Public Sector Economics, Public Finance, and State and Local Government Finance.  He was a four-time recipient of the School’s “Faculty of the Year” award for excellence in teaching.  Dr. Fleeter was also a faculty member in the School of Education at the University of Massachusetts Amherst from 1999-2001, where he taught courses in the Economics of Education and School Finance. 
  • Dr. Fleeter's research has focused on issues of education finance, education policy, and state and local tax policy and he is the author of numerous policy studies and academic journal articles on these topics.  Since his 1992 report, "Equity, Adequacy and Reliability in Ohio Education Finance" for Governor Voinovich's Education Management Council he has been one of the state’s leading experts on Education Finance.  He has worked extensively with Ohio education policy-makers to improve the state's school funding system for more than 25 years.  He is currently the owner of the state and local government finance and tax policy consulting firm Howard Fleeter & Associates and serves as a research consultant on education finance and policy issues for the Ohio Education Policy Institute.  

Connect with OEA:

• Email [email protected] with your feedback or ideas for future Public Education Matters topics
• Like OEA on Facebook
• Follow OEA on Twitter
• Follow OEA on Instagram
• Get the latest news and statements from OEA here
• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on October 7, 2025.

Whether they're learning Spanish, French, German, or any other language, World Language programs open up doors for Ohio's public school students every day. Unfortunately, World Languages educators have to constantly fight back against attacks on their programs as they fight for the opportunities their students need. Teays Valley Education Association Vice President Haylee Ziegler is passionate about helping everyone see the value of World Language programs in our schools. She shares her thoughts on this episode of the podcast. 

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS | If you'd like to share your feedback on the Public Education Matters podcast, including your ideas for what you'd like to hear about - or talk about - on future episodes, please email [email protected].
 
SUBSCRIBE | Click here to subscribe to Public Education Matters on Apple Podcasts or click here to listen on Spotify so you don't miss a thing. You can also find Public Education Matters on many other platforms. Click here for some of those links so you can listen anywhere. And don't forget you can listen to all of the previous episodes anytime on your favorite podcast platform, or by clicking here.

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Haylee Ziegler, Teays Valley Education Association Vice President
  • Haylee Ziegler is an 8th year Spanish teacher at Teays Valley High School. She is the vice-president of the Teays Valley Education Association and a part of the OEA LRC training program. Haylee also runs a blog, senoraziegler.com, where she reflects on teaching Spanish and provides professional development to teachers

Connect with OEA:

• Email [email protected] with your feedback or ideas for future Public Education Matters topics
• Like OEA on Facebook
• Follow OEA on Twitter
• Follow OEA on Instagram
• Get the latest news and statements from OEA here
• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

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• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on August 20, 2025.

Educators who are in their second decade in the profession are facing burnout at alarming rates - 66% report that they're considering leaving their careers. Many feel that their needs as experienced professionals aren't being met and their voices aren't being heard. Building off the success of OEA's Ohio's New Educators program, which serves educators in the first ten years of their careers, a new pilot program has been launched to support mid-career educators specifically. Tonya Horn and Jovita Wade have been driving much of the new Mid-Career Educators cadre work, and join us for this episode to share what they've been hearing from other mid-career educators about why this kind of support is so important. 

MID-CAREER EDUCATORS WANTED | If you would like to get involved in the new Mid-Career Educators cadre, you can connect with Tonya by email at [email protected] and you can reach Jovita by email at [email protected]. You can also learn more about the Ohio's New Educators department, under which the Mid-Career pilot program is being organized, here.

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Featured Public Education Matters guests: 

• Jovita Wade, Fairborn Education Association member
  • Jovita Wade is an intervention specialist in Fairborn City Schools, currently working with high school students. She serves on the Western Ohio Education Association Board of Directors and is a Professional Efficacy Committee member. Jovita began her education career as a school secretary before becoming a teacher, having attained a Masters of Exceptionalities degree. She has been serving as a ONE Member Organizer and now has joined the Mid-Career Organizers Cadre. 
• Tonya Horn, Green Local Association of Support Staff member
  • Tonya Horn is in her 19th year as a paraeducator, working at Green Local Schools Middle School. She has served on the Northeast Ohio Education Association Board of Directors as well as the Ohio Education Association Board of Directors. Tonya is also a NEA Lead Member Organizer. Her work with Ohio's New Educators has now grown to include serving as a ONE Mid-Career Member Organizer.

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• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on July 10, 2025.

Public education is not partisan, but it is political. What happens at the statehouse in Columbus makes a huge impact on what happens in our classrooms every day. That's why the OEA Ohio's New Educators (ONE) group is working to make sure educators have a seat at the table with lawmakers who are making education policy decisions. As ONE Member Organizer Alex Myers points out, the most effective conversations aren't always about policy specifics; they're about building constructive relationships and better understanding so lawmakers turn to educators for their input and stories.

SUBSCRIBE | Click here to subscribe to Public Education Matters on Apple Podcasts or click here to listen on Spotify so you don't miss a thing. You can also find Public Education Matters on many other platforms. Click here for some of those links so you can listen anywhere. And don't forget you can listen to all of the previous episodes anytime on your favorite podcast platform, or by clicking here.

THE POWER OF ONE | To learn more about the Ohio's New Educators group and how you can get involved with this group of educators in the first ten years of their careers, click here.

SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK | If you'd like to share your thoughts on the Public Education Matters podcast, including your ideas for what you'd like to hear on future episodes, please email [email protected].

Featured Public Education Matters guest: 

• Alex Myers, Marietta Education Association member
  • Alex Myers a Physical Education Teacher for grades K-2. He is in his 8th year as a Building Representative for the Marietta Education Association. In the past 3 years, he has has leaned into his passion for advocating for his fellow educators and students, while working to build relationships with my legislators locally and throughout the state of Ohio and Nationally. He enjoys spreading this passion and these opportunities with fellow educators and hope the practice can be less intimidating and more routine!
     

Connect with OEA:

• Email [email protected] with your feedback or ideas for future Public Education Matters topics
• Like OEA on Facebook
• Follow OEA on Twitter
• Follow OEA on Instagram
• Get the latest news and statements from OEA here
• Learn more about where OEA stands on the issues 
• Keep up to date on the legislation affecting Ohio public schools and educators with OEA's Legislative Watch

About us:

• The Ohio Education Association represents nearly 120,000 teachers, faculty members and support professionals who work in Ohio’s schools, colleges, and universities to help improve public education and the lives of Ohio’s children. OEA members provide professional services to benefit students, schools, and the public in virtually every position needed to run Ohio’s schools.
• Public Education Matters host Katie Olmsted serves as Media Relations Consultant for the Ohio Education Association. She joined OEA in May 2020, after a ten-year career as an Emmy Award-winning television reporter, anchor, and producer. Katie comes from a family of educators and is passionate about telling educators' stories and advocating for Ohio's students. She lives in Central Ohio with her husband and two young children. 

This episode was recorded on June 16, 2025.