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George Saunders is one of literary fiction's most acclaimed living writers. Along with his many collections of short stories, he also published the Booker Prize-winning novel Lincoln in the Bardo. This week, Michael chats with him about his life and career, and George reveals the three words that made him a writer.
Reading list:CivilWarLand in Bad Decline, George Saunders,1996Pastoralia, George Saunders, 2000In Persuasion Nation, George Saunders, 2006Tenth of December: Stories, George Saunders, 2013Lincoln in the Bardo, George Saunders, 2017A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life, George Saunders, 2021Liberation Day: Stories, George Saunders, 2022
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, James Joyce, 1916To Have and Have Not, Ernest Hemingway, 1937The Old Man and the Sea, Ernest Hemingway, 1952The Little Disturbances of Man, Grace Paley, 1959Ordinary Gods and Monsters, Chris Womersley, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Is it a man? Is it a moth? Frank has a strange night out with Elizabeth Bishop. The poem referenced is 'The Man-Moth'.

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Frank indulges his obsession with the Anglo Saxons as he reads Geoffrey Hill's Mercian Hymns.

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Presenter Manchán Magan investigates the quirks, conundrums and wonders of this country.

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Presenter Manchán Magan investigates the quirks, conundrums and wonders of this country.

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Rory Sutherland is a British advertising executive, author, and marketing visionary. He’s the UK Vice Chairman of Ogilvy, one of the world's largest and most renowned ad firms. Mad Men is largely inspired by the company and one of the firm’s founders, David Ogilvy.

Rory started Ogilvy’s behavioral science practice, pioneering the application of behavioral economics and evolutionary psychology to marketing and advertising.

Some of his counterintuitive theories on marketing and human behavior are compiled in his book Alchemy: The Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense, where, primarily, he argues that great marketing ideas are often built around a core that is profoundly irrational.

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Frank examines statues and statutes with Percy Bysshe Shelley. The poems referenced are 'England in 1918' and 'Ozymandias'. The essay referenced is 'A Defense of Poetry'.

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Manchán Magan and Sally Foran learn about old weights and measures. // Presented by Manchán Magan and produced by Colette Kinsella. A Red Hare Media production for RTÉ Radio. Partially funded by the BAI with the television licence fee.

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Celebrated contemporary storyteller Dr. Martin Shaw recounts an ancient Irish myth. // Presented by Manchán Magan and produced by Colette Kinsella. Production assistance by Ronan Kelly. A Red Hare Media production for RTÉ Radio. Partially funded by the BAI with the television licence fee.

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Manchán Magan delves into the riches of Irish mythology with renowned contemporary storyteller Dr. Martin Shaw. Presented by Manchán Magan and produced by Colette Kinsella.

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