The second half of my conversation with Alan Black and Crispin Barker about punk rock in the UK and the US and whether or not you can buy a life in Target. Alan is a writer, artist, poet now living in the East Bay. Crispin is a music encyclopedia now living in the North Bay.

Though I will be talking to all types of people about unconventional and some might say PUNK moves in their lives, this episode dives into the origins of punk rock in London starting with The Sex Pistols.