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"Until you experience a thing, you don’t know a thing. That’s something that bothers me a lot with the investor world-unless you’ve done it, you don’t really know what the grind feels like."
In this episode, Bogdan Knezevic, co-founder and CEO of Kaleidoscope, unpacks how hands-on experience-from the grind at Frequency Therapeutics to launching the Rhodes Incubator-shaped his passion for biotech startups and team building. 
He shares the pivotal role of serendipity and authentic networking at Creative Destruction Lab and Entrepreneur First, which ultimately set the stage for founding Kaleidoscope. Bogdan dives into the challenges of innovating biotech R&D infrastructure, the importance of collaboration, and why tackling meaningful problems drives his mission in a rapidly evolving industry.
Key topics covered:

• Experiential Learning: Nothing beats firsthand experience in understanding biotech’s real challenges.
• Building Teams: Founding the Rhodes Incubator showed what truly makes teams thrive.
• Serendipity and Networking: Authentic outreach and chance meetings unlock major opportunities.
• From Academia to Entrepreneurship: The leap means tackling real-world problems that matter.
• Innovating Biotech Infrastructure: Kaleidoscope is digitizing R&D to speed up breakthroughs.

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Resources & Articles:Biotech Fundraising Milestones Resource: https://blog.kaleidoscope.bio/biotech-milestones-for-effective-fundraising/Exhalation: Stories: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41160292-exhalationStories of Your Life and Other: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223380.Stories_of_Your_Life_and_Others
Companies, Universities, & People mentioned:Kaleidoscope Bio: https://www.kaleidoscope.bio/Creative Destruction Lab: https://creativedestructionlab.com/Entrepreneur First: https://www.joinef.com/
Ahmed Elnaiem: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aelnaiem/David Yen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-y-e-n/Matt Clifford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattcliffordef/?originalSubdomain=uk
Timestamps:00:00 Intro02:00 Discovering a love for startups at Frequency Therapeutics06:13 Launching the Rhodes Incubator and learning what makes teams work08:01 Gaining startup know-how through student-run organizations10:51 Building strong co-founder bonds and the value of team chemistry13:38 Leading the AI stream at Creative Destruction Lab17:31 Embracing serendipity and authentic networking20:00 Helping launch Entrepreneur First’s Toronto program22:35 Committing to start Kaleidoscope with longtime friends25:41 Defining Kaleidoscope’s purpose and picking meaningful problems29:34 Tackling biotech’s digital transformation and leaving paper behind31:13 Shaping the future of biotech with next-gen product vision34:55 OutroThe Biotech Startups Podcast gives you a front-row seat to the business and science of building a biotech. Hosted by Jon Chee, CEO of Excedr, the show features honest conversations with founders, execs, and investors about their work, their companies, and how they got there. From scientific breakthroughs to startup lessons, each episode explores what it really takes to grow a life science company—from pre-seed to IPO.