Jebb and Blake deliver something completely different on the fifteenth episode of the Pursuing Performance Podcast and first ever full interview. Jebb hosts Hunter Collett, a small business owner and childhood friend as they discuss the grind and glory of being an entrepreneur.

In this episode, we discuss...

• Introducing our guest Hunter Collett [00:30]
• Changing your Instagram account from personal to business and its implications [01:30]
• Fruits! [04:00]
• Posting to social media daily with a scheduler [04:45]
• Constantly coming up with content for social media [05:45]
• How time consuming content creation is [07:00]
• What Hunter is – a student, small business owner, and Thick Skin [08:00]
• Hunter’s origin story [09:30]
• How Hunter determined the right product to take to market [12:30]
• How you can learn anything in today’s society [17:45]
• Honing metal and leatherworking skills [20:00]
• Building a business as an experiment [22:40]
• Creating and managing a brand and message [26:30]
• Having “thick skin” and actual personal attacks [29:00]
• Hunter’s 5 Year Plan and scaling up [30:30]
• Handling snakes and how fun shit is dangerous [34:30]
• Outsourcing certain work like graphic design or apparel [38:15]
• Being a vendor at events and being authentic [40:30]
• Trial and error and being polarizing with content [43:15]
• Why Hunter is staying in college versus going all in [47:00]
• The validity of a college degree [50:00]
• The craziness of YouTube  [52:40]
• Hunter’s biggest asset [55:30]
• What Hunter would tell his high school self [57:30]
• Not being afraid to fail [58:45]
• Do what you’re good at and what you love [01:00:00]
• Hunter’s final thoughts, his business info, and more! [01:00:45]

Check out Hunter Collett's work at thickskinleather.com and on Instagram @thick_skin_leatherworks

Jebb and Blake expand their discussion on limiting factors and explain how eating behaviors, emotional eating, and lack of exercise can impair weight loss.

This was one our earliest recorded episodes (as was the previous episode on Limiting Factors), so excuse the sometimes low audio. Hope you enjoy!

In this episode, we discuss...

• Oreos again [01:30]
• Easter Candy [02:00]
• Overeating [03:15]
• Food choices [04:15]
• Eating behaviors [05:45]
• Eating slowly and feeling full [06:30]
• Eating fast and binging [08:30]
• Wine tasting your food [09:30]
• Distraction free eating [11:00]
• Pacing yourself with another eater [13:00]
• Hunger cues and food challenges [14:45]
• Social norms and hunger cues [17:10]
• Irregular eating habits and missing meals [18:10]
• Using food to manage feelings [19:35]
• HALT Acronym [21:10]
• Exercise as a limiting factor [24:00]
• Avoiding too much stress [26:30]
• Cooking skills [27:30]
• On and off the wagon [29:20]

Jebb and Blake discuss how food choices can hinder weight loss success and suggest a few food strategies that can be used to improve one's overall health.

In this episode, we discuss...

• Painful neck cramps [00:30]
• The concept of “limiting factors” [02:00]
• Abundance of processed foods [05:00]
• Dangers of processed foods [06:00]
• If it is in your kitchen… [06:45]
• The Kitchen Cleanout Strategy [07:15]
• How to properly eat your oreo [08:15]
• Continuums of change [10:45]
• “Dietary displacement” and healthy substitutions [12:10]
• How you can meet your weight goals unhealthily through processed foods [16:00]
• ABC lists and determining what nutritionally dense foods you love [18:00]
• Why you should retry foods you dislike [20:00]
• Importance of food variety [21:30]
• Riced veggies vs. the Rice Industry [23:00]
• Supplementing to prevent nutrient deficiencies [27:00]
• Hydration [28:45]
• Fast food [32:00]
• And much much more!

Article mentioned: https://www.tastecooking.com/caul-me-by-your-name/

Jebb breaks down how to properly coach oneself in order to achieve positive change through an easy but detailed six step process.

In this episode, we discuss...

• A true coach-client relationship that ended with no results [01:00]
• The difficulty of changing [03:30]
• Applying foundational knowledge in the betterment of one’s self [05:30]
• An overview to 6 Steps to coaching yourself [07:00]
• Step 1: Assessing and Collecting Data [08:00]
• Identifying goals [09:15]
• Identifying mobility issues [10:15]
• Step 2: Building the story [12:10]
• Identifying your nutritional and fitness levels [13:10]
• Step 3: Building an action plan [15:30]
• Step 4: Choosing ONE step and act [17:45]
• Confidence and buy-in [19:10]
• Step 5: Wait, observe, monitor [20:15]
• Step 6: Outcome-based decision making [21:00]
• The Five Whys [23:40] (or four since Jebb can’t count)
• Managing expectations [25:30]
• Focusing on the small wins [26:45]
• Focusing on strengths as well as weaknesses [28:30]
• The concept of “discrepancy” [29:10]

Blake and Jebb discuss their unbelievable experiences with dreaming while exploring the purpose of sleep. Jebb also drops some tips to improve one's sleep hygiene and thus one's performance. In this episode, we discuss...

• Theories on why we need sleep? [1:30]
• The importance of sleep analogy [3:45]
• Drowsy driving [4:30]
• Being tired vs. being hungry vs. being thirsty [5:45]
• Going multiple days on poor sleep [6:45]
• Stages of sleep [8:00]
• REM Rebound [8:40]
• Sleep cycles [9:40]
• Sleep apnea [10:40]
• America’s sleep scores [12:00]
• Jebb’s typical dreams [13:30]
• Sleep paralysis [14:20]
• Jebb’s first encounter with sleep paralysis [16:45]
• False awakenings [17:50]
• Blake’s first encounter with sleep paralysis [18:50]
• Lucid dreaming [21:50]
• Inducing sleep paralysis and lucid dreams [23:50]
• Are dreams “predetermined”? [27:15]
• Supernatural dreams? [29:30]
• Reoccurring dreams [30:50]
• Are people in your dream people that you’ve seen before? [32:00]
• Nightmares [33:30]
• Spiders and snakes [34:30]
• Getting shot in dreams [36:30]
• Night terrors [38:10]
• Sleep hygiene tips [40:30]
• Blue light vs. fire light [42:30]
• Caffeine and sleep [43:30]
• Napping [44:00]
• Making a routine around sleep [44:55]
• Supplements for sleep [46:10]

Complete show notes at pursuingperformancemedia.com

Jebb and Blake discuss the various supplements that may or may not improve performance while also diving into the nuances of pre-, intra-, and post- workout nutrition.

In this episode, we discuss...

• Drinking coffee at night [00:30]
• Lower calorie substitutes [01:15]
• The protein farts [02:30]
• Proprietary blends [03:10]
• Jebb’s workout of the day [05:25]
• The “anabolic window” [08:30]
• The importance of meal timing [09:50]
• Six meals a day?? [11:00]
• Working out fasted [13:15]
• Post workout meal [14:40]
• Insulin post workout [15:45]
• Feeding for your goals [17:30]
• Intra-workout meals [18:30]
• Jebb’s bonking story [19:45] & [21:45]
• Protein pancakes [27:30]
• Multivitamins [29:00]
• Pre-workout supplements [30:10]
• Post-workout supplements [31:00]
• Creatine [32:00]
• Fish-oil [33:00]
• Doing your own research before buying [34:00]

Jebb takes another deep dive into the science of metabolic pathways, details the difference between anaerobic and aerobic systems, and explains just why exercise is so good for you!

In this episode, we discuss…

• Lobsters and Waffles [00:30]
• Buffets and the pain of eating too much [01:15]
• Jebb’s Popeyes story [02:30]
• The three systems that provide you with energy [05:30]
• Anaerobic vs aerobic systems [06:00]
• The goal of macronutrients and ATP [07:20]
• The definition of “metabolic pathway” [08:00]
• Carbohydrate metabolism [09:00]
• Glycolysis, Krebs Cycle, and the Electron Transport Chain [10:45]
• Gluconeogenesis [12:20]
• Fat metabolism [14:00]
• Ketone formation [15:10]
• Protein metabolism [17:00]
• The possibility of optimizing pathways? [19:00]
• Excess Post-Exercise Oxygen Consumption (POC) [20:45]
• The benefits of resistance training [23:30]
• The importance of fuel [24:45]
• The benefits of aerobic exercise [25:30]
• The benefits of low vs high intensity exercise [26:45]
• Jebb’s resting heart rate [28:15]
• The episode’s key takeaways [31:00]

Jebb breaks down everything you need to know about macro and micro nutrients: carbs, fats, proteins, vitamins, minerals and everything in between!

In this episode, we discuss…

• Our previous episodes on energy balance and diet [00:45]
• A Nutritional Facts food label for sunflower butter [02:30]
• “Calories from fat” [03:10]
• Calories per macro-nutrient [04:10]
• Types of carbohydrates [06:00]
• Soluble and insoluble fiber [08:00]
• The concept of “Net Carbs” [09:40]
• The war on fructose? [11:47]
• Is insulin making you fat? (no, overeating is) [12:30]
• Glycemic index and glycemic load [13:40] and [15:40]
• The insulin index [17:45]
• Why you should choose complex carbohydrates [18:45]
• Overview of fats [22:15]
• The importance of dietary fat [23:45]
• Omega 3’s and omega 6’s [24:45]
• Trans fat [26:25]
• Protein [27:35]
• Protein for weight loss [28:40]
• The perfect diet? [30:30]
• My macronutirent breakdown [35:10]
• Micronutrients [36:15]
• Multivitamins [38:15]
• Fat-soluble vitamins [40:00]
• And more!

Jebb and Blake take a hard look at several professional athletes on the top of their game to determine which athlete is the most "fit". They first define what being fit actually means and with the help of a controversial Sports Illustrated article debate who is the most deserving of the title "Fittest on Earth".

In this episode we discuss...

• The Sports Illustrated article that led to our discussion [01:00]
• Defining what "fittest" is [01:30]
• Why the best players aren't necessarily the fittest [03:30]
• Steph Curry [03:50]
• Who #1 is... [06:00]
• Biases in the SI article [07:15]
• Mental fitness? [07:35]
• Lebron James [08:50]
• Roger Federer [10:25 & 13:50]
• Tom Brady [11:40]
• Quarterbacks [13:00]
• Christiano Ronaldo [14:30]
• Baseball players [16:00]
• Hockey [18:00]
• Gronk [20:10]
• Crossfit and Mat Fraser [22:05]
• OCR [25:50]
• James Harrison [27:00]
• Odell Beckham Jr. [28:20]
• Russel Westbrook [29:00]
• Wayde Van Niekerk [30:10]
• Connor McGregor [31:30]
• Cam Newton [32:00]
• The athleticism in fighting [33:10]
• Swimming and Michael Phelps [35:30]
• JOHHHNNNNNNN CENAAAAA [37:00]
• Phil Heath and Bodybuilding [38:45]
• Jimmy Johnson and NASCAR [41:10]
• Rugby vs. Lacrosse [43:30]
• Water Polo [47:00]
• Blake and Jebb's #1 Pick [49:00]

Jebb tells of his weight gain in college and how he embarked on a second weight loss journey that led him to fall in love with the fitness game.

In this episode we discuss...

• How Jebb looked like Skeletor after  losing 25 pounds in college [01:00]
• What Jebb did to keep weight off in high school [03:00]
• "Newb" Gains [04:40]
• The Freshman 15 [06:20]
• Food in High School vs. Food in College [07:55]
• The Sophomore 15 [11:45]
• Learning the basics of fitness in order to lose weight [14:30]
• Jebb's epiphany at Christmas Junior Year [16:30]
• Seeing results and the start of Jebb's OCR career [18:30]
• Failing relationships and final results [21:00]
• Jebb's ex's mom [23:00]
• Falling in love with health [25:00]
• Summary of both weight loss stories [27:30]
• Spot reduction myth [29:50]
• More Skeletor [30:50]