Pushing The Edge with Greg Curran

In this episode, speaking up as White Educators and challenging the silence on issues of social justice - online - and in our schools.

We’re also chatting about truly seeing our students & teaching a #BlackLivesMatter curriculum.

And in the Lightning Round, we’re pushing the edges of visibility, democratic ideals, bias and indoctrination.

Our guest is Greg Michie, a year 7 and 8 public school teacher of Social Studies in Chicago, USA.

For full Show-Notes, go to: http://PushingTheEdge.org/26

Episode Run-Down:

▪ How Greg pushes the edge for social justice (1:21)

▪ How we can keep social justice at the forefront of our teaching? (1:41)

▪ Why step outside what's familiar and comfortable to us as teachers (3:54)

▪ Why step outside the norm of silence about race, gender and sexuality in education (5:29)

▪ Challenging the silence - Centering issues of social justice in schools and online (9:09)

▪ How we can step up for social justice on Twitter? (12:26)

▪ Talking about access and equity in Tech Twitter Chats (16:05)

▪ Ending white silence: What can we do as white educators? (18:53)

▪ Truly seeing our students: A powerful moment in Greg's classroom (26:41)

▪ Teaching a #BlackLivesMatter Curriculum (30:12)

▪ Why speaking up is important - even if you think it doesn't affect your community (37:50)

▪ Feeling afraid of speaking up - what you can do (40:50)

▪ The Lightning Round - indoctrination, visibility, urban, cultural proficiency, student centered, unconscious and unexamined bias, democratic ideal (42:41)

Related Posts:

▪ Not Being The Outsider by @GregBCurran - http://PushingTheEdge.org/26a

▪ Tips for Ending White Silence in Twitter Chats by @GregBCurran - http://PushingTheEdge.org/26b

▪ Stand with Us for Social Justice in Education by @GregBCurran - http://PushingTheEdge.org/stand-up

▪ What White Educators can learn from Pittsburgh's Police Chief by Greg Michie - http://goo.gl/TpvWlw

▪ Amy Winehouse, Allen Iverson and The Importance of Seeing our Students by Greg Michie - http://goo.gl/794kqE

Episode Links:

▪ Greg Michie on Twitter - https://twitter.com/GregoryMichie

▪ What is White Privilege - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

▪ Pondering (my) White Privilege by Shawn White - https://goo.gl/RqSxUU

▪ Ferguson (Gun-related violence and policing in the USA) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest

▪ Teaching about Ferguson (Class-resources) - http://www.tolerance.org/teaching-about-ferguson

▪ Michael Brown - https://goo.gl/chJVuW, Eric Garner - https://goo.gl/j1EPnp

▪ Tamir Rice - https://goo.gl/YSpCgK, Jonathan Ferrell - https://goo.gl/dMS4DV

▪ John Crawford III - https://goo.gl/MWiZio, Walter Scott - https://goo.gl/iXCnZI, Laquan McDonald - https://goo.gl/7Bo6Mo

▪ Beverly Daniel Tatum - https://goo.gl/Lza0Zg

▪ Educolor Website - http://www.educolor.org/

▪ #BlackLivesMatter Website - http://blacklivesmatter.com/

Additional Resources:

▪ The Pushing The Edge Podcast Archive: http://PushingTheEdge.org or https://goo.gl/yJAZFm

▪ Social Justice Resources: http://PushingTheEdge.org/social-justice-resources

▪ Greg Curran on Twitter - https://twitter.com/GregBCurran

When we explore identity with our students, we often focus on single dimensions like race or ethnicity.

But if we consider race, how does your gender, belief systems, or socio-economic status impact on your experiences and opportunities in life?

The intersections of identity, that's the focus of this episode.

And in the Lightning Round, we're Pushing The Edges of conversations about gender and race, privilege, social justice, democracy, and co-existence.

Our guest is Bill Ivey. Bill is a middle-school Dean at Stoneleigh Burnham Girls' School in Western Massachussetts, USA.

Bill's passionate about teaching for social justice, and the concept of intersectionality is central to much of his teaching in this area.

For complete Show-Notes go to: http://PushingTheEdge.org/25

Episode Run-Down:

▪ The origin of this episode (1:07)

▪ What got Bill interested in Social Justice? (1:45)

▪ How Bill Pushes The Edge in education (4:41)

▪ What is intersectionality, why teach about it, and what got Bill interested in it? (5:17)

▪ Exploring gender identity and sexuality with students (8:03)

▪ How Bill explores intersections of identity with students - being a 'girl' (11:50)

▪ Developing class guidelines for discussing identity - exploring race (13:12)

▪ Navigating tricky situations within discussions - white privilege (14:25)

▪ Not under-estimating our students | Facing our fears about messing it up (15:19)

▪ Students are interested in 'No-Go' Topics - let's get out of their way (17:09)

▪ Discussing student designed units - Should we teach Gender? Should we teach sexuality in school? (18:05)

▪ Staff reactions to students' ideas and understandings about race and racism (19:39)

▪ The challenges in teaching about the intersections of identity (20:15)

▪ The Lightning Round - teaching gender, co-existence, conversations about race, social justice, democracy, privilege, best self, and Pushing The Edge (21:32)

Episode Links:

▪ Bill Ivey on Twitter - https://twitter.com/bivey

▪ What is agnosticism? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

▪ What is intersectionality? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

▪ Teaching Resources on Supporting GLBTI Youth - http://www.safeschoolscoalition.org.au/resources

▪ Information about Caitlyn Jenner - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caitlyn_Jenner

▪ What is White Privilege - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege

▪ Pondering (my) White Privilege by Shawn White - https://goo.gl/RqSxUU

▪ White People Tell White People about Privilege, and That's OK by Jose Vilson et al - http://goo.gl/Xexvvi

▪ Ferguson (Gun-related violence and policing in the USA) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest

▪ Teaching about Ferguson (Class-resources) - http://www.tolerance.org/teaching-about-ferguson

Listen to More Pushing The Edge Episodes about Identity:

▪ Making a Difference by Not Playing it Safe with Greg Curran - http://pushingtheedge.org/16 and http://pushingtheedge.org/17

▪ Find your Voice and Really Connect with Jenny Moes - http://pushingtheedge.org/7

▪ Activating Student Voice with Silvia Gonzalez - http://pushingtheedge.org/21

How can we support and empower students to make change happen?

How can we empower them to be change-makers who challenge and transform unjust systems?

Well, we've gotta dislodge and disrupt the stories of oppression and victim-hood that are so prevalent.

We've gotta review and re-frame the ways we talk about ourselves and our communities.

We've gotta tell stories of persistence, positivity, hope, joy and achievement.

It all starts with re-thinking our business as usual in schools. And on that count we've got quite a few tips and insights to share.

For complete show-notes go to: http://PushingTheEdge.org/24

Episode Run-Down:

▪ How Christina Torres Pushes The Edge (1:36)

▪ How to center social justice around students and their worlds (2:14)

▪ How Christina's students pushed back & resisted (3:38)

▪ Race: Seeing ourselves in power, in diverse roles (7:26)

▪ How to teach for student agency (10:34 & 12:27)

▪ Re-thinking how we view and talk about particular communities (11:26 & 14:47)

▪ Re-thinking how we view and talk about 'success' (16:15)

▪ Empowering students to recognize their capital (22:07)

▪ Why we need to name ourselves with empowered language (23:08)

▪ Getting beyond stories of oppression - moving toward hope, joy, persistence and possibility (25:16)

>▪ Getting beyond obedience and polite 'critical thinking' (27:50)

▪ The Lightning Round - defiance, vulnerability, cultural capital, teacher-leader, agency, and advice (30:32)

▪ A Not To Be Missed Take-Away (34:56)

Episode Links:

▪ Christina Torres' Blog - http://christinatorres.org/

▪ Christina Torres on Twitter - https://twitter.com/biblio_phile

▪ The Language of Power by Christina Torres - http://goo.gl/AUu48p

▪ The United Farm Workers' Union - https://goo.gl/XS03kh

▪ The Unity Clap (Union protest tool) - https://youtu.be/CYOHnxYg50I

▪ The Giver by Lois Lowry - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giver

▪ Martin Luther King Junior - https://goo.gl/M58vW

▪ Grace Lee Boggs - https://goo.gl/4h0Jlo

▪ Student Organize, Community Activist and Educator: Xian Barrett - https://twitter.com/xianb8

▪ Surin McGrory - Re-thinking how we view Indigenous Students - http://pushingtheedge.org/15

▪ Educolor Resource Page - http://www.educolor.org/resources/

Listen to More Change-Maker Episodes:

▪ From Student Voice to Agency with Stephanie Thompson - http://pushingtheedge.org/23

▪ Questioning and transforming our communities with Nakisha Hobbs - http://pushingtheedge.org/22

▪ Activating Student Voice with Silvia Gonzalez - http://pushingtheedge.org/21

▪ Step back and let young people take the lead with Laura Hill - http://pushingtheedge.org/8

Student voice is often spoken of within education circles. Often though it's voice with limitations or prescriptions, with adults ultimately making the decisions or limiting the amount of influence that students actually have.

In this episode, we take a different route. We examine how one school in New Zealand moved from student voice to student agency.

Here Maori students (for example) play an active and influential role in the life of the school.

They lead training workshops with parents and carers, as well as general community consultations. They also participate as Student Ambassadors on interview panels for new teaching staff.

We've also got the Lightning Round. Here Steph and I are challenged to Push The Edge on education issues in a quick and speedy manner.

For complete Show-Notes go to: PushingTheEdge.org/23

Episode Run-Down

▪ How Stephanie pushes the edge in education (2:07)

▪ Tapping into our students' experiences of school (3:14)

▪ Is what we're doing making a difference? (4:15)

▪ How do we get community involved? (5:08)

▪ Bringing in the Maori community through student voice and action (6:16)

▪ How the Maori students coached the parents: helping us with our homework (7:13)

▪ How to encourage authentic student voice and student agency (8:51)

▪ How to show parents we're fair dinkum about innovation (11:24)

▪ Stepping back as teachers (12:51)

▪ Collecting student voice about writing (13:48)

▪ Actually listening to students' views: writing about motorbikes (16:01)

▪ Using student interests like soccer and football to drive our teaching (16:44)

▪ A powerful question: Who's responsible for your learning? (18:44)

▪ Students contributing to, and participating in, teacher interview panels (19:36)

▪ Working with challenging behaviours and not giving up on students (21:45)

▪ The Lightning Round - Engagement, hard questions, community, stepping back, coaching, voice, and potential (27:02)

Read Steph's Reflection on this Episode

▪ Read Steph's blog-post on preparing for this episode, participating, and then listening afterward. It's a top read - http://goo.gl/qUrCmN

Episode Links

▪ Stephanie Thompson on Twitter - https://twitter.com/st3ph007

▪ Stephanie Thompson's Blog - http://fourseasonsinonekiwi.blogspot.co.nz/

▪ Beach Haven Primary School Website - http://www.beachhaven.school.nz/

▪ The Loss of Potential by Stephanie Thompson - http://goo.gl/b0JYf6

▪ Brendan Spillane Bio - http://goo.gl/sXjLta

▪ Victorian Association for Restorative Justice in Schools - http://www.varj.asn.au/schools

In this episode, we explore student activism in a K to 8 elementary school. Here students are critically exploring and unpacking the issues that affect their lives and the people they care about.

But that's not all - they're also coming up with Action Plans to make a difference on these issues. Issues such as street litter, gun violence, homelessness, and police violence towards their communities.  

We've also got the Lightning Round where we're pushing the edges of teacher objectivity, standardization, achievement gaps, and being Young, strong and proud.

For full show-notes, go to: PushingTheEdge.org/22

Episode Run-Down

▪ How Village Leadership Academy push the edge

▪ Exploring personal and community identity - from Kinder Grade onward (2:13)

▪ The importance of transformation in students' lives (3:03)

▪ Getting beyond feeling 'less than' (3:50) | Understanding ourselves and our worlds

▪ GLBTI students - The importance of connection (5:14)

▪ Getting beyond under-estimating young people - Exploring gender with young people (6:30)

▪ The difference between the students' community and other communities - Litter in our streets (7:30)

▪ Student Activism in education | The role of education (10:20)

▪ Teachers as allies to students (13:25)

▪ They don’t know about - They shouldn’t know about (15:24)

▪ The Information Model and African-American and Latino young people (16:47)

▪ Dealing with the realities of students’ lives (18:08)

▪ The practice of education and ignorance - Teaching world history (20:35)

▪ The benefits of critical literacy for students (22:19)

▪ From feeling powerless to powerful - A 3rd Grader's story about homelessness (26:01)

▪ Navigating society after being in a social-activist focused class (31:05)

▪ Explicitly talking about Code Switching with students (34:35)

▪ Exploring police brutality towards transgender African-American women (39:10)

▪ The Lightning Round - Teacher objectivity - Achievement Gap - Young, Strong and Proud - Standardization - Student Leadership - Adult Allies - Defying The Odds - Pushing The Edge (40:09)

 

Episode Links 

▪ Nakisha Hobbs on Twitter - https://twitter.com/VLA_Principal

▪ Village Leadership Academy Website - http://www.vlacademy.org/

▪ Why every Education Leader in America needs to talk to William Jackson by Kendra Racouillat - http://goo.gl/9dt2EG

▪ Chicago Coalition for the Homeless Website - http://www.chicagohomeless.org/  

 

Related Pushing The Edge Podcasts

▪ Activating student voice with Silvia Gonzalez (who works in Nakisha's school) - PushingTheEdge.org/22

▪ Shake up your beliefs and values with Erin Stevenson - PushingTheEdge.org/3

▪ Find your voice and really connect with Jenny Moes - PushingTheEdge.org/7

▪ How to navigate social justice issues in the classroom with Rusul Alrubail - PushingTheEdge.org/13

▪ Shaking up our mindsets about Indigenous Students with Surin McGrory - PushingTheEdge.org/15

▪ Making a Difference by Not Playing it Safe with Greg Curran (Part 1 and Part 2) - PushingTheEdge.org/17 and PushingTheEdge.org/18

 

Social Justice Organizations

▪ http://www.teachersforjustice.org/ - Chicago

▪ http://www.edliberation.org/resources- New York

▪ http://www.safeschoolscoalition.org.au/resources

▪ http://www.educolor.org/

In This Episode: finding and understanding ourselves through our stories; the links between language and autonomy; re-framing assessment in ways that work for our students; and playing the game - or at least critically playing it.   My guest is Silvia Gonzalez, a teacher-artist who works primarily with black and Latino young people in Chicago, USA.  Episode Run-Down

• How Silvia pushes the edge
• Empowerment and identity
• Centering our students' stories | Finding a place to be who you are
• Visibility and Invisibility | Toning down in the classroom
• Sharing our stories
• Critical interrogation and diverse perspectives
• Continual learning and researching as a teacher
• Actively engaging with our students and their communities
• Negotiating the pull towards standards whilst meaningfully engaging with the real issues in students' lives
• The power of language and systems of power
• Comfort, discomfort and accountability
• Transparency and critically 'playing the game'
• The Lightning Round
• Being open to our students' stories: 2 examples

Links for People and Issues Mentioned in this Episode

• Silvia Gonzalez- Website - Instagram
• Cherri Moraga and Gloria Anzaldua - 'This Bridge Called My Back', 'Making Face, Making Soul -Haciendo Caras (books)
• Favianna Rodriguez - 'Migration is Beautiful'

Related Pushing The Edge Podcasts

For more social-justice themed episodes, listen to:

• Episode 3: Shake up your beliefs and values with Erin Stevenson
• Episode 7: Find your voice and really connect with Jenny Moes
• Episode 13: How to navigate social justice issues in the classroom with Rusul Alrubail
• Episode 15: Shaking up our mindsets about Indigenous Students with Surin McGrory
• Episodes 17 and 18: Making a Difference by Not Playing it Safe with Greg Curran (Part 1 and Part 2)

In this episode, getting our students excited about science: tapping into and growing their sense of wonder and awe about the world around them, and supporting them to collaborate on the topics and issues they care about.

Plus, how to get others on board with your ‘out -there’ ideas.

And in the Lightning Round, we're Pushing The Edge of risk, mindset, innovation and the status quo.

Our guest, Jasper Fox Senior, a middle years Earth Sciences teacher.

EPISODE RUN-DOWN

Jasper introduces himself (1:00 minute mark)

What is Earth Sciences and how is it being taught differently nowadays? (2:38)

Connecting what's outside to inside the classroom - what it demands of us as teachers (3:47)

Shifting to a collaborative and real-time feedback model with students (5:43)

Jasper's model of teaching Earth Sciences (7:06)

Using video to teach and engage students (7:42)

How Jasper sets up his classroom (8:59)

Where it all started - How Jasper transformed his teaching of Earth Sciences (10:28)

What Jasper's students think about his videos and the challenge of not boring students (15:14)

How to get colleagues, parents and resistant students onside with new teaching approaches (19:12)

What Jasper learnt about himself (24:45)

The Lightning Round: risk - mindset - innovation - status quo - leadership - Pushing The Edge (25:49)

My Innovation Coaching Program - Let's Make your Innovative Ideas a Reality (29:43)

Jasper's advice to his younger self (31:06)

EPISODE SHOW-NOTES

For complete Show-Links and Resources- including links to Jasper's Science videos - go to PUSHING THE EDGE - EPISODE 20.

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In this episode, getting authentic with our reading and writing, plus giving ourselves permission to branch out beyond our comfort zones, doing what's best for students.

 

But that's not all - We've also got the Lightning Round where we're pushing the edges of mindset, branching out, resistance and the collective.

 

And to bring us home, Michelle Snyder and Victoria Curtis have advice to their younger selves.

EPISODE RUN-DOWN

Getting permission to take risks

Personalizing student learning (3:00 min mark); Common Core vs Romeo and Juliet vs Science Fiction (4:19)

Personalizing when you have so many students to teach (6:57); It's about mindset (8:52)

Breaking away from Comfy and Safe (11:56); Creating the conditions for permission (14:20)

Creating trust with leaders (17:25); Transformation District-wise (18:58); From control to 'take risks' (22:09)

Giving Permission to ourselves to take risks (23:11)

Getting clear about what's best for our students (24:40)

The battle with our mindset (26:25)

Pushing past the fear and vulnerability (28:31) - Strategies

The Lightning Round (33:00)

Advice to our younger selves (35:45)

SHOW-NOTES

For complete Show-Links and Resources go to PUSHING THE EDGE - EPISODE 19.

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Make a Difference by Not Playing It Safe (with Greg Curran)

Push Past Your Comfort Zone (with Rachael Lehr)

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In this episode, listening to that 'call from within', and responding to 'turning points' in our lives - with Andy Vasily.

What do you do when faced with potentially life changing moments? Do you continue with what's safe and familiar? Or do you dare to step off that conveyor belt?

Plus, you've got ideas for change - your colleagues are all on board - until it comes time to speak up at a staff meeting. Then they're no-where to be found. So what do you do?

And in the Lightning Round we're Pushing The Edge of boundaries, Mindset, and Making a Difference.

SHOW-NOTES

For complete Show-Links and Resources go to PUSHING THE EDGE - EPISODE 18.

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In Part 2 of my chat with Rachael Lehr - We're Standing Up for Student Voice, Identifying the Key Challenges facing School Leaders, and Changing the World at a Local Level.

 

There's also the Lightning Round where we're Pushing The Edge of Home, Relationships, Discomfort and Making a Difference. 

 

There's also my Not To Be Missed Books. This time a couple of books that have been influential in my teaching career.

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In Part 1 of my chat with Rachael Lehr we talk about motivations and inspirations for Pushing The Edge, Social Justice, How to Stay True to Yourself, and How to Navigate Self-Doubts.

Listen to Part 1 (Episode 16) on ITunes or on my website.

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Pust Past Your Comfort Zone with Rachael Lehr

Pushing The Edge of Whole School Change with Ray Boyd - Ray is the Principal of the School that Rachael Lehr teaches in.

Take Care of You with Jason Borton. Jason is an Australian Principal who isn't afraid to ask challenging questions, and think outside the business as usual. He asked one of the questions in this episode.

Step Back and Let Young People Take the Lead with Laura Hill. Laura tells some compelling tales about life with her two young daughters, In particular, how they've caused her to reassess her ideas about what's possible for young people. Laura asked one of the questions in this episode.

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