Join R'Lizzi in conversation with Jonathan Brooks, or "Pastah J" the Senior Pastor at West Englewood's Canaan Community Church, as they discuss falling in love with exile, tikkun olam, and what it takes to become part of a movement instead of just a moment. Pastah J is a faith leader, an activist, a musician, an entrepreneur, a husband and father. You can read his recent book, or learn more about his work on his website.

The second in our three-part series leading up to Tisha B'Av, this conversation touches on historical and present day destruction, trauma, and the promise of a world one day pieced back together.