Destination:
Story of Alexander Hamilton
and Nevis
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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome aboard Travel with Anita and Friends. Now, as you know, we are the spot where we don’t just show you a destination, we take you into its history, its heroes, and the stories that make it so unforgettable. And today, we’re heading to the twin island nation of St. Kitts and Nevis, a place of quiet beaches, volcanic peaks, and one truly extraordinary claim to fame. Are you ready for this? It is the birthplace of one of America’s founding fathers, Alexander Hamilton. Now, did you know that? Well, if not, that’s what today’s show is all about. Because now you know Hamilton from the $10 bill, of course we know that. And you may know him from the history books as the main man who shaped America’s financial system as its very first Secretary of the Treasury. Or you may also know him, if you’re one of the millions who have seen it, you may know him from the stage where a hip hop and R&B musical turned his story into one of the most celebrated works of theatrical performances in a generation. So let’s get to the information, though, about Hamilton. Because if you didn’t know about him being born on Nevis, this is gonna be a great show for you to find out a lot of great American history, but also Caribbean history. Born on the island of Nevis around 1757, Hamilton’s beginnings, well, they were anything but easy. Because we may think of one of the Founding Fathers as having an easy life from birth until the end. Well, he was raised in poverty, orphaned as a teenager, and yet through sheer intellect and ambition, he rose to become one of the most influential figures in early American history. He was a key author of The Federalist Papers. Yep, that was Hamilton. He was an aide to General George Washington during the Revolutionary War. That was Hamilton. And he was the architect of the young American nation of their banking and financial system. That was definitely Hamilton. So it’s a remarkable journey, a remarkable story. And it all starts on a small Caribbean island to the center of American power. And it’s a story that in recent years found a whole new audience. Because in 2015, the musical Hamilton, well, it reimagined his life on Broadway, turning a Founding Father into a cultural phenomenon, and sending curious travelers looking for the real place where his story began. And that place is Nevis. And today we’re going to take you there. But now it won’t just be me. Joining me is someone who knows this island very, very well, and of course knows Hamilton’s connection to it better than, certainly better than I do, and almost anyone. And that would be Greg Phillip of Nevis Sun Tours. So I’d like to welcome Greg to the show for him to help us tell the story of Alexander Hamilton and Nevis Island. So Greg, thanks for joining me today. Alexander Hamilton is celebrated as one of America’s Founding Fathers. But before America knew him, he was a young boy growing up in Nevis. So tell us-
Yes… a little bit of, about what life was like on Nevis during his childhood, and how did the island, well, how do you feel the island shaped the man that he became?
So Anita, thank you very much for having me. I’m, I’m really happy to be here with you this morning, um, to talk first of all about, um, yes, Alexander Hamilton and his role, um, living here on Nevis. But in addition to that, I’m very much happy to be here to talk about Nevis in general, and also my company, Nevis Sun Tours. Um, Nevis Sun Tours, um, really we’re both a destination management company and a luxury travel enablement platform, which basically means that where it might be difficult for people to obviously find luxury when they’re traveling, we work with, um, them and, um, their travel agencies, et cetera, to ensure that they can enjoy luxury vacations here on Nevis. Now, in relation to Alexander Hamilton, um, I, I probably spend more time with Hamilton than is normal. [laughs]
And, and, and the reason, the reason I can say that is because, you know, um, for us at Nevis Sun Tours, we’ve really, um, embraced Alexander Hamilton and, and fully incorporated him into the stories that we tell about this island of Nevis. And it’s important that we do so because, you know, many people do not realize that Alexander Hamilton was born here on the island of Nevis. Mm.
Just the fact that he’s born here on the island of Nevis really says that, um, a small island in the Caribbean have had so much to do with the, number one, the existence of America, and number two, with the way America is with its financial systems, its defense systems, et cetera. Because Alexander Hamilton is the man that had so much to do with the origins of all those things. So your question I should, I should get to that about- [laughs]
Alex- [laughs] about how, how this island would have, um, shaped him. Absolutely. Um, that w- without a doubt. And, and I can say this confidently, with as much confidence as it’s possible for anyone to say anything. Alexander Hamilton, the man we know for all the things he has done, could not have ever become the man he became without the island of Nevis in his background. And, and, and that’s, that’s as, that’s as sure as we can be. And, and the reason for that is because, um, so many things happened here on this island that really shaped Alexander Hamilton. This island shaped the man Alexander Hamilton became.
Well, what was life like during his childhood on Nevis at that time? Ah. Well, [laughs] I’ll say, I’ll say this, it wasn’t easy.
00:07:03,352 –> 00:07:03,792 [speaker_1] Mm. 00:07:03,992 –> 00:07:13,892 [speaker_2] Um, and um, it, it, it begins with this, and, and y- probably for many of your listeners a little-known fact. Alexander Hamilton was born out of wedlock.
Really? His mother and father were not married. And because his mother and father were not married, I mean, back then any child that was born out of wedlock had a very difficult road ahead.
Mm-hmm. Um, a, number one, Alexander Hamilton would have been in a situation where he could not go to school with, with other children, um, at the school here, that he should have gone to in Nevis. And, and the schools back then, education was taken care of by the Anglican Church back then, and there was absolutely no way the church was gonna have a child from a sinful union-.. go to school with other good Christian children. So if you could imagine- Yeah. here is Alexander Hamilton starting life without a clear opportunity to be educated. That’s Hamilton’s life here on Nevis when starting. But surrounding him here on Nevis are so many other things. It’s, um, the, the vibrant, um, trade and commerce that really positioned Nevis as a, as a world economic power for Great Britain, in terms of what was contributed. And, and, um, all the trade and commerce I’m speaking of related to Nevis and Hamilton’s time here would have been, um, surrounding both sugar and slavery. And um, I, I’ll tell you this though, Anita, um, when, when we talk about Caribbean travel and people coming to enjoy the Caribbean, um, the slavery issue is not something that we can ever shy away from because it is so much a part of our history. What we’ve done though, um, and in the work that we do, is to make sure that when we tell those stories, that they’re told truthfully, but they’re not told, they’re not told in a way that’s going to alienate anyone.
Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Um, they’re told in a way that is, that is honest, truthful, and of course, um, w- keeping the fact in mind that this is our history, and it’s a, it’s a history that must be told in a certain way, um, so that it is honored and it is honorable. And keeping in mind that no one today was involved in what was happening back then.
Hamilton’s early childhood on Nevis is very important to the development of the man who would then become such an important part of American history. I’ll stop here, but when we come back, I will continue my conversation with Greg in talking about Hamilton and the island of Nevis on Travel with Anita and Friends. Back in a minute. Kind of a wonder how travel expert Anita Campbell keeps her travel destinations fresh. Well, this year she’s still flipping a coin. For eight years, Anita has hosted her award-winning podcast, Quarterhouse Travel. And this year on Travel with Annita, she is sharing those experiences with you. This season, Annita will take you to the states commemorated on the back of a quarter, revealing-
[Instrumental music] We know one of our Founding Fathers, Alexander Hamilton, as the person who helped us get a treasury system set up in the United States. But what do we know about his early childhood and the conditions under which he grew up living on the island of Nevis in the Caribbean? Welcome back to Travel with Anita and Friends. I asked Greg Phillip of Nevis Sun Tours to tell us more about the conditions and times when Hamilton lived on the island, what was going on, those conditions, and how they go about presenting that history as part of their tours.
We, we definitely, with our stories, keep history in its true context. Never mind that we may have feelings, but whatever we feel today, um, are things that we have to embrace because, especially when we’re talking about Alexander Hamilton. If we do not embrace the feelings that we may have about certain things from that period of time, we essentially begin to cheat ourselves out of the true effect that history should have on us.
And that, and that, it, it’s, it’s part of our responsibility when we tell the stories, and it’s part of our responsibility as travelers when we consume, um, stories of history in various parts of the world, that we, number one, keep them in their true context, and number two, that we also, um, embrace how we feel about those stories in today’s modern times. But it’s what we have to do when we think about Alexander Hamilton and his time here on Nevis, and how this island shaped the man he became.
Well, Greg, you said that so well, because I, I agree so much with you about, you know, telling the history. Because you can’t tell, like, one part of history and say that that was history. You have to tell all of it.
Right. Um- All, all of it was history. You know, I mean, we can’t- Certainly… um, you know, we can’t be time travelers and go back and, and see if we can kind of change things. We have to accept the history that, you know, that s- sort of that we were given, uh, and that is- Yeah … you know, part, part of our, our legacy. Uh, so-
Indeed … it’s very, very well said. Very well said. Well, I wanted to ask you something though, because I didn’t realize that he was born- Mm-hmm … out of wedlock. So was his- Yes … was his mother or father a, a resident- Oh … of the island? Or do, do you have a little information on- Well … on that? [laughs] Okay. Well, so, so you’re, you’re, you’re gonna, you’re gonna make me get into the story a little bit. No problem. And this is, this is it. I- Well, just a little bit of it … um, the, the more appropriate way to put it, and, and you, and you’ll see why it would’ve been such a controversial thing, especially for the church. The more appropriate way to put it is the fact that Alexander Hamilton’s mother was married, but his father wasn’t. [laughs] So, so you, you, you can see why now. That, that that in itself, um, would’ve, would’ve been such a taboo thing and, and such a difficult thing for the church to accept, number one. But definitely because of that, because of those circumstances, um, such a difficult early life situation for Alexander Hamilton himself to navigate.
Well- Mm-hmm … talk about a lit- little unknown things probably, ’cause I, I don’t know how much, you know, Americans, uh, how much we know about that. So, but anyway, that’s, that’s good. That’s great to, to share that, ’cause that does give sort of a broader picture of his-
Yes … childhood and probably the struggles that he had to, you know, to go through. Uh, not only being, you know, a child born out of wedlock, but also other situations that probably came through with the families, you know?
Yes. And everything. So I can just, I can only imagine.
Now, many Americans know, uh, Hamilton through history books or the Broadway musical. Mm-hmm. I don’t know- … if you’ve seen that or not. But few realize that they can actually visit his birthplace. So what can we see as travelers, and what can we experience today at the-… Alexander Hamilton Museum? And why is it important that we stop? Okay. Well, well, first of all, um, the Alexander Hamilton Museum is one of the most, if not the most popular site visited on Nevis today by travelers, and the main reason for that is because of the musical.
Now, um, so m- my little history with the musical. I saw, I saw the musical about two months after it opened on Broadway with the original cast.
And… Yeah. [laughs] And that was amazing. And then I saw it again, um, when it opened in England, in London.
That was another, that was another amazing experience. So, um, that being said, I could see why people would leave the theater and after understanding and finding out that Alexander Hamilton would’ve come from Nevis, that they would either come here or while they’re here want to delve a bit more into his history and actually see where he came from. Um, so yes, now many people visit the museum. And, um, our most hands down most popular tour, most, um, written about tour, and the tour that we have that get the most award, it, um, is our Alexander Hamilton Island Tour.
Um, that, that’s a tour that we’re, we’re extremely proud of. Um, last year we won, um, an award. Our most international award was from Azamara Cruises.
And we won a… based on, um, feedback from their passengers to them, which we had no clue about. [laughs] But, um, we were, we were awarded the best new tour worldwide for Azamara Cruises. What it is now is as a result of why I’m spending so much time with Alexander Hamilton.
[laughs] I got you now. Okay. … but earlier this year we, we had, um, the producer of, of that play in England, um, come out and did the tour, and also loved it.
So it is through this tour, um, that we take people to the museum, the Alexander Hamilton Museum. Um, you actually get a guided tour of the museum. And guided because, um, it’s a live documentary, a story, an original story about Alexander Hamilton that is actually factual that you’re in, that, that’s gonna teach you so much about Hamilton, his life here, um, his impact, um, worldwide. But in addition to that, it’s also gonna g- give you so much information and a good, um, understanding of Nevis and what Nevis was during his time and what Nevis is today, um, because of influences from things that Alexander Hamilton have done. But when you go to the museum, um, it’s, it’s about being at his birthplace. And, and I, I make a point to say that because people who know the musical would [laughs] would realize that the musical spoke about where Alexander Hamilton was from, but they never mentioned Nevis. They said that Hamilton is from a forgotten spot in the Caribbean.
That’s not good. [laughs]
[laughs] Yeah. So where… Nevis is a forgotten spot in the Caribbean. So I… Listen, I just, I just laugh at that because, um, if I don’t laugh I’ll cry. [laughs] But, um, we do a very immersive tour in there and it really starts from beginning to end. We delve into, um, the very important aspects of his life and some things that, um, some people wouldn’t have known about him, um, because they’re specifically related to Nevis.
Um, but then there’s, there’s a few other things that, um, we delve into with, uh, I’ll say a particular twist on it that really connects- Um, his time to our time today. And, and if you don’t mind, I can give you a quick example of that.
Um, you know, w- here we are, here we are today now, um, in a world where so many people are talking about trade and tariffs. [laughs] You’ve heard that word tariffs,]Yeah
… perhaps in the past couple of years?
Yeah. Um, and immigration. And if you, if you understand the history of Alexander Hamilton and, and you’ve really gone deep into it, you would recognize that Alexander Hamilton has dealt with or had to deal with all those things, and he had, he had different philosophies on them. And interestingly, his philosophies on things like immigration and, um, and tariffs, et cetera, and trade, do not necessarily match up completely now with the take that America itself has on it. But it’s just interesting to connect those things and show people where it all started.
Alexander Hamilton, you cannot deny his importance in creating a currency, a US currency, and we’ll hear more about that. But I’ll stop here and take a break, and when I come back, I’ll speak again with Greg about Nevis and Alexander Hamilton. You’re on Travel with Anita and Friends. Back in a minute. [upbeat music] Our Founding Fathers did more than just sign the Declaration of Independence. They were very instrumental in creating many things that are today just simply parts of the US that we take for granted. Welcome back to Travel with Anita and Friends. And today, I’m taking you to Nevis down in the Caribbean, because that is the birthplace of Alexander Hamilton, one of our Founding Fathers. And his story is very interesting on not only his life there as a child, but also the influence that he gained there that he brought to America to make us the country that we are today. I asked Greg Phillip, the owner and founder of Nevis Sun Tours, to tell us the story of Alexander Hamilton. So I continue my conversation with Greg. I asked him to share how Alexander Hamilton is connected with the US Coast Guard.
This is, this is what… This is, this is how, um, the Coast Guard came about. Hamilton is a financial guy. Um, he, he’s setting up, um, the financial system, um, that America currently stands on, that the world operates on. Um, and for example, quickly, the, the fact that America has a single currency, that was Alexander Hamilton who decided that that, that is what we’re gonna have. And the reason he had to do that is because it was the world. Um, the world back then is that every colony that became a state, they all had their own currencies. [laughs]
And Alexander resolved the co- the, the chaos of that by having one currency. But while all that is going on, there’s something else happening with America. Back then, America was not a great manufacturing nation, and America was struggling. England, America’s enemy at the time, who they just defeated, England was the great manufacturer in the world. Most of the things that are being imported into America are coming from England. Hamilton created the Coast Guard simply so that he can actually have a force to guard the coast so that they can intercept all the things, the goods that are being, um, transported into America, and actually tax them. So the first… The… That’s why the first ships that the Coast Guard, um, commissioned, you know what they were called?
Oh, tax. Yeah. Tax cutters.
So what lessons do you think that Hamilton learned from living in a colonial society that later influenced his views on the American Revolution?
Now, England wasn’t out there saving the world. I mean, England had colonies because of the fact that those colonies served England well.
Um, back then, sugar was king.
And so m- so, so much of the trade and commerce was about, um, the sugar and enslavement. And Hamilton growing up on Nevis in the Caribbean is in the mix of all those things. Um, the stance that Hamilton have had throughout his life really, um, shows that Hamilton is by and large presented as an abolitionist, and he’s presented that way because of all that he’s dealing with, um, here in the Caribbean living on Nevis, the things he’s seeing. He would have witnessed slavery here on this island in its rawest sense because he saw when the slave ships came and when our people set foot for the first time on solid ground after leaving Africa right here on this island. Hamilton would have been there as a little boy to witness that. He saw the treatment-
… of the, of, of the enslaved.
He saw, he saw the conditions of the newly enslaved. He saw who’s coming off these ships dead, who’s chained to someone, who’s dead, who’s, who’s in very bad condition.
He hear- he, he heard the cries- Yeah
… of, of, um, of newly enslaved people who are frightened, and those things shaped him. Um, that’s why I think that he would have been an abolitionist. But then there’s another aspect of Hamilton’s life that people do not, do not recognize and do not know much about. But, um, back then- There’s a, a vibrant Jewish community here on Nevis. In fact, in the town where Hamilton is growing up in, in Nevis, there’s, um, a quarter, full quarter of the population were Jewish. And as part of our tour, we visit the, the Jewish cemetery here on Nevis. We go there because if you ever wondered, here’s a young, a young child who couldn’t go to the normal school. Well, where was he educated? Where did he get, where did he get anything resembling formal education? It would’ve been in the Jewish community.
So at, at this point, things should be co- begin to come together for you. Why does Hamilton know so much about economics and business?
Where is that coming from?
And this is, and this is not, this is not, this is not being stereotypical. This is not stereotype. These are facts-
… that Hamilton, Hamilton got a solid base because of the influence of the Jewish community right here on this island.
Um, yeah, so he experienced both wealth and those harsh realities of slavery. Um, so do you think that, that sort of been, he took that then over to America, uh, when he, when he came over with a lot of his views and his position on things?
He came to America with a lot of experience, and, and this experience that he came with would’ve been first-hand experience that he got from right here in the Caribbean, and most of it from the island of Nevis. And he was here during his formative years, so he has a base that is, um, 100% Nevisian in that sense.
And, and, and coming, coming to America now, um, he’s, he’s bringing that. And, and those are the things that are informing his, his philosophies and the way he’s actually acting and pursuing life in America and, and pursuing nation-building in America.
Well, well, tell me a little bit about his teenage years, because, uh, he left in, when he was a teenager, right? I mean, what, what led-
… what events led to his departure and…
Alexander Hamilton left Nevis, we’ll have to call him a preteen. He wasn’t quite a teenager yet. Um, when he, when he migrated away from Nevis with his, with his mother and father, they went to St. Croix. So, um, when he got to St. Croix, of course, St. Croix has a similar economy that is based on, um, trade and commerce, lots of, um, slavery related things going on throughout the entire Caribbean. So, um, all those, all those influences, they carried over even though he would’ve, he would’ve migrated away from Nevis. And, and back then, I mean, you’re leaving really for opportunity.
For opportunity and what, what opportunities are available and where is the opportunity located. And, um, a, a few things back then, I mean, you, you have to realize at that time you don’t need a visa [laughs]
… to go somewhere. You don’t need a green card to show up and, and live, [laughs] you know, as a legal resident. Um, so, you know, people, people moved. The, the, the, the effort to move was, um, very much a big, big effort because you’re on a boat.
And a boat without a boat without engine. Um, so Yeah
…you, you see. That, but that, that was the timing, and all those things are what’s, um, really shaping Hamilton throughout his childhood in the Caribbean.
So this is another question kind of going back to, to his parents.
So you said he left with his mother and father.
So now is he still, is he still with his, his parents, or did something happen throughout his life that separated him from his mother considering, you know, the-
… conditions that he was born under?
Well, um, so Alexander Hamilton, um, his … After they got to St. Croix, after a while, um, his father abandoned the family. His fa- his father actually died in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. By that time, Hamilton was in, in America. And Hamilton, even though, yeah, his father did that, he still supported his father, um, sending remittances to St. Croix for him. At one point he did want his father to migrate to America to live with him so that he, he can have an easier life. But, um, his mother died, um, while he was a teenager in St. Croix. As a matter of fact, they were both stricken with a fever at the same time, both of them sick on the same bed, and his mother died and he survived. So that’s why, um, they would’ve called him an orphan at that time, because really his father wasn’t there- Yeah … and his mother was dead. Yeah. After, after that, I mean, you know, he’s there, he’s working, he’s, um, he’s, he’s young still, but he eventually, um, made it to America by that time.
I’ll stop here, but I’ll be back in a few minutes with more on Alexander Hamilton and his amazing story here on Travel with Anita and Friends. [upbeat music] The life story of Alexander Hamilton doesn’t begin in the United States. It begins in Nevis. Welcome back to Travel with Anita and Friends, and today we’re heading over to Nevis to talk with Greg Phillip, the owner and founder of Nevis Sun Tours, where he shares the story of Alexander Hamilton and how it all began in the Caribbean island of Nevis.
Alexander Hamilton was born in 1757 … the, the Declaration of Independence is 1776.
So when that happened, um, yeah, he’s, he’s in the Revolutionary War, et cetera. Um, he’s with Washington at a very, very young age. When he started out, he’s still a teenager.
Well, te- tell me this. What, what’s one of the myths about Hamilton that, that you’d like to correct? Are there any myths out there?
[laughs] Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, there’s … I, I said there are questions about, um, whether or not Hamilton was Black. His life is going a certain way, and yes, one of the myths is that you hear them talk about, um, Hamilton being Black. But I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you this, that was something being done by his political rivals. Um, they, they, they tried to shame Hamilton, um, about his, his birth in the Caribbean. They called, they called him the West Indian interloper.
They even called him, they even called him the Creole bastard. Um, it is said that some of them wo- some people still wonder was he Jewish? And, I mean, perhaps people would have had reason, um, to ask about his Jewish heritage because they might have realized that Hamilton knew a lot about, um, Jewish life and culture.
Knew a lot, um, probably knew Hebrew. Um, but why? Because of his upbringing on Nevis. So, so, so you see, but those are just some, some of the myths. We don’t have anything that said that Hamilton was anything but, um, a Caucasian individual, a white man.
] Did he ever come back to Nevis?
When Alexander Hamilton left Nevis, he was in the same country. You have to say he was in the same country as America. Because when he’s born here on Nevis in 1757, you do recognize that Hamilton is subject to the same king as everyone in the 13 North American colonies. Yeah.
Now, if you, if you’re born in a place with … and you have the same leader as people halfway around the world from you, you’re from the same country, which is what one of the, one of the things that we delve into in the museum to resolve actually, um, this issue of Hamilton being considered an immigrant. Why is Alexander Hamilton considered an immigrant when he’s born as part of a British colony, part of the British Empire just like everyone else? So, um, but we’re talking about him not coming back to Nevis. Um, there’s no sense of patriotism. Um, Hamilton never forgot Nevis. Um, while Hamilton didn’t come back, Hamilton is there, and Hamilton is thinking about Nevis. A- and when I say thinking about Nevis, in the sense that there’s … If you read his biography, um, this book by Ron Chernow, yes, Hamilton actually spoke about, um, the United States as his adopted country. So i- it’s, it’s not that he forgot where he was from as to why he didn’t come back.
He was in a place where he is considered an immigrant, likely not by choice, but he’s considered an immigrant, and he’s doing important work. I mean, all the things that Alexander Hamilton did, you’ll, you’ll be surprised, and you, you’ll be surprised to recognize that he’s doing those things, um, and he’s not even an elected official.
And that law in America where they say you have to be born there in order to become, uh, have a chance to become president, um, it’s often said that that was created politically to prevent Alexander Hamilton from having a chance at the presidency. So you, you put all those things together and you, you see, yeah, Hamilton is, um, in fact, from Nevis. He never forgot Nevis, and he went b- um, to America doing some very important things to build the America that we all know today.
Um, he was married. Did he have children?
Tell us a little bit about his, that part of his life.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Alexander, Alexander Hamilton, um, left, left the Caribbean, and w- when he got to America, eventually he, he got married to, um, Elizabeth Sky- Schuyler, one of the Schuyler sisters. And, and this, um, and this is one of the reasons why people think that, some people think that Hamilton would’ve been involved in slavery is the fact that Alexander Hamilton, uh, married into the Schuyler family, who everyone knows, um, actually had enslaved people, owned enslaved people. And that being, that being said, um, Alexander Hamilton, um, he got married. He’s, he’s with, um, Elizabeth Schuyler. They had eight children. Oh. Eight children..
Yeah. That’s a lot, that’s a lot of children, but that’s how many children they had. Now, interestingly, um, here on Nevis, H- Hamilton’s maternal grandparents were living here on Nevis, and they would have had seven children. But back then, you know, infant mortality rates back then during his grandparents’ time here on this island were very high.
So it seems, it seems that, um, it’s his mother was the surviving child out of that seven. He had eight children with his wife.
And, uh, did they all survive? A- and are there any descendants of, uh, of, uh, of Alexander Hamilton-
… that we can point to today?
Oh, yeah. I mean, there’s, there’s … Yeah, his family, his family still lives somewhere in, in America.
Um, so, so yeah, I mean, he had, he had children. I mean, one of his, one of his sons, Philip, um, we know that he died in a duel, um, before, um, before Alexander Hamilton actually died in a duel himself.
So and so Alexander Hamilton died in a duel? So tell us a little bit about that.
00:36:27,396 –> 00:37:11,706 [speaker_2] [laughs] Yeah. It was a duel against, um, Aaron Burr. He, he and, he and Burr, they started out as good friends, and, a- and, you know, the … all that is played out in the musical. They started out as good friends. Him and Burr were lawyers together. Some people say that Burr was actually a better lawyer than him because Hamilton would show up and talk for three hours to make one point, and Burr would [laughs] use a couple of sentences and his case is closed. But, um- They got to, it got to the point where, um, Hamilton just thought that Burr was very unethical, and he wouldn’t support him, um, in presidential bid. And in fact, um, at one point Hamilton had the deciding vote about , whether or not would become president.
And so they, they, they were enemies. And, you know, back then, I, I’ll tell you this, Alexander Hamilton was not well-loved during [laughs] by, by everyone during his lifetime, you know?
A lot of people… And, and so yeah, some of it is politics, but many people didn’t, didn’t love him. And, um, yes, today many people love him because they look at history in a different way, and they love him because they love the musical, et cetera. But Hamilton wasn’t l- well-loved back then. He had lots of enemies, lots of political rivals. And it, it is in fact said that Hamilton was involved in seven different affairs of honor. These are the types of disputes that would lead to duels. Seven of them.
So I mean… But the… Dueling was so interesting that, um, dueling is, [laughs] is often described as, um, polite, well-regulated, and barbaric. [laughs] Um, sometimes it was enough just to show up, um, and sh- fire the shot in the air to say, “Well, that’s it.” Um, Hamilton showed up, and Hamilton did that. Burr didn’t do that. Burr shot at him, and Hamilton died. Best place to go for, for Nevis Sun Tours is go over to nevissuntours.com. That’s our website, nevissuntours.com. You can also connect with me on LinkedIn. Email address is [email protected], [email protected]. Most of what we do are gonna be things that are quite custom and definitely, um, personalized. I mean that. We, we help people, um, to create luxury experiences, um, in a very authentic way. We check four boxes with everything we do. It must be authentic, must be immersive. They also must be intimate, meaning that we don’t do very large groups with these activities. And number four, they are going to be memorable.
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