In this episode, Masaki and Kinoko welcome their very first podcast guest, Kasumi (also known as Rero-san), a sociologist specializing in culture and gender, and the author of the Quoiromantic Manifesto. Kicking off the first installment of a special structured three-part discussion, the trio dives straight into a fundamental question: what actually makes a relationship romantic? Kinoko and Kasumi break down the definitions of polyamory and quoiromanticism, exploring what it means to feel unsure of or disconnected from traditional romantic attraction.
The conversation then moves into a comparison between alo-romantic experiences and non-hierarchical relationship styles. From analyzing how different people choose partners—whether based on physical traits, verbal communication skills, or shared values—to questioning society's strict relationship hierarchies, the hosts dismantle the idea that romantic partners must automatically rank above friends. Finally, they explore the separation between romantic and sexual attraction, discussing how sexual contact can range from a deep emotional connection to simply a casual shared activity akin to karaoke or bowling.
・Introducing Kasumi & The Quoiromantic Manifesto: Sociologist Kasumi joins as the show's first guest to discuss her work, explaining quoiromanticism as an orientation where traditional concepts of romantic attraction feel confusing or inapplicable.
・Polyamory & Informed Consent: Kinoko revisits the core definition of polyamory as an ethical relationship structure involving multiple partners, emphasizing that full consent, transparency, and communication are what separate polyamory from cheating.
・Criteria for Partnership: Masaki, Kasumi, and Kinoko compare what makes someone a good candidate for a relationship, contrasting Masaki's visual attraction preferences with Kasumi's focus on clear verbal communication over non-verbal cues.
・Dismantling Relationship Hierarchies: Kinoko shares her philosophy on treating friends and romantic partners as equals rather than placing partners at the top, using her famous heart as a sharehouse metaphor to explain having room for multiple people.
・Japanese Dating Culture vs. Going Exclusive: The hosts dissect the linguistic and cultural gaps between the Japanese concept of suki and Western dating norms, exploring how formal relationship confessions function almost like contracts.
・Sex as an Activity vs. Romance: A candid look at the distinction between sexual and romantic attraction, where Kasumi explains viewing sexual contact as simply one of many social activities—like karaoke or bowling—rather than an inherently romantic act.
Annoucements:
・Tokyo Sharehouse Opening! If you or someone you know is looking for an affordable, flexible, short-term housing option in Tokyo without the massive hotel bills or strict apartment lease rules, check out Kinoko’s sharehouse!
Kinoko's Links:
・X: x.com/kinoko1027
・blog: ameblo.jp/kinoko1027ameba/
・book: amzn.asia/d/0gusbsvA
・interview: news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/ad17531bef6f9307a429f45f450a9fb2817f8196
Kasumi's (Rero-san's) Links:
・X: x.com/rero70
・Research map: https://researchmap.jp/kasuminakamura