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R2K and FV Joined in Anti-Revival


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In this episode of Kingdom Polemics, Pastor Aldo Leon is joined by Rev. Zach Dotson from the Presbyterian Church of Eastern Australia http://www.ulvpcea.org. Together, they explore the surprising commonalities between Radical Two Kingdoms (R2K) theology and Federal Vision (FV), particularly in their shared resistance to revivalism and experiential piety. While these two camps often seem to be at odds, this discussion uncovers a mutual emphasis on covenant objectivity that results in a de-emphasis on personal religious experience and revival.

Episode Highlights:

  • R2K's Opposition to Revivalism – How figures like R. Scott Clark argue that revival is an illegitimate religious experience detached from the means of grace.
  • The Objectivity of R2K and FV – Both systems prioritize an external, corporate understanding of faith, leading to a diminished focus on individual piety.
  • Presbyterians vs. Puritans? – A critique of the artificial division that R2K theologians impose between Scottish Presbyterianism and Puritan revivalism.
  • Historical Revivals in the Reformed Tradition – Examining past revivals, including the Six Mile Water Revival, the Kirk of Shotts, and the role of Scottish Presbyterianism in fostering revival movements.
  • Theological Parallels Between R2K and FV – Despite their apparent opposition, both systems struggle with the balance between objective covenantal assurance and the necessity of subjective spiritual experience.
  • The Role of Preaching and the Means of Grace – Why a biblical view of preaching and the Holy Spirit challenges the sacramental overemphasis in both R2K and FV.

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