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I’m your host Kelly Ann McKercher, author of Beyond Sticky Notes: Doing Co-design for Real. Today we’re joined by community-design leader Morgan Lee Cataldo, professor of design Tad Hirsch and social worker turned designer, Rachael Dietkus. We explore the similarities between design research and psychotherapy, the dark side of rapport, the differences in transactional research versus community-led as well as the increasingly popular topic of what being trauma-informed might mean. 

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