It's a pair on conversations on this episode. First, it's Rag 'n' Bone Man whose new album is "Life by Misadventure." He explains the inspiration for the title and the origins of his name. He also shares his concerns for his son in these strange times, life without social media, and why he loves Nashville.

Then it's Pete Yorn, whose debut, "musicforthemorningafter" just turned 20. Pete not only reflects on the making of the album, but he also tells Bret about growing up loving metal and being a lefty in a right-hand world. Plus, he pulls back the curtain on how musicians really get paid.