Kris and Evan discuss Rule 4 of Jordan Peterson's Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.

Also: Leaving the Apple ecosystem after Apple revealed its surveillance plans for their products, and AT&T's "3G sunset" upgrade scam.

0:00 Evan: Chill Updates

7:29 Kris vs. Apple

23:49 Kris vs. AT&T

33:49 Evan: Hawaii

37:55 Peterson: Rule 4

Kris and Evan discuss the basics of homiletics, how to make a sermon, and the Tim Keller 200 Sermons Challenge. (Also: Rule 3 of the new Peterson book.)

0:00 Chill Updates

38:46 Peterson: Rule 3

42:01 Homiletics 101

1:36:32 Ramen Review: Kopan Ramen

(49:00 mark: Paul speaks of ethos, pathos, and logos in 1 Thessalonians 2.)

Evan's YouTube Video

Kris and Evan discuss recent ministry-related updates in their lives, then discuss Rule 2 in Jordan Peterson's Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.

0:00 Evan: First Eulogy / Chill Updates

24:10 Kris: Chill Updates

42:44 Kris: The Summons from God

1:08:36 Peterson: Rule 2

Kris and Evan return from hiatus to discuss Rule 1 from Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's new book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.

0:00 Pre-show

8:18 Housekeeping / What's New with Evan

32:02 Beyond Order: Rule 1

1:11:07 Ramen Review: Ramen Zuru

Links

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

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