Kevin has a lively conversation with Rand Fishkin, co-founder of SparkToro, and previous co-founder of Moz. They talked about how Google's reps bullied Moz into pulling features from the Mozbar, uninviting speakers from Mozcon, pulling features from SEMRush, Raven Tools, Conductor, and more.

Rand is also the Author of Lost and Founder: A Painfully Honest Field Guide to the Startup World. Listen in as they discuss why SEOs should stop listening to Google and tolerating their bullying.