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It took 10 minutes and a free online tool to deepfake Jim's voice, with no expertise and no cost involved.
Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we share our take on the world of cybersecurity with direct, practical advice for professionals and business owners alike. I'm Jim and in this episode, I'm joined again by Alexandra Jorissen from identifAI, alongside Lorenzo Zoffoli, a cybersecurity professional with 12 years of experience. Following the huge response to our first deepfakes episode, which set a bit of a channel record with the number of views, we go further into the technology, the threats and what organisations can actually do about it.
The episode opens with a deepfake of Jim's voice, created by Lorenzo using a free online tool and 5 seconds of audio from our YouTube channel. It took 10 and cost nothing. That sets the tone for a conversation that goes well beyond what was covered in the first episode, into the industrialisation and scalability of deepfake attacks, the personalisation that makes them almost impossible to spot and why visual and audio content can no longer be treated as proof of truth.
From a Dutch bank discovering 46 fraudulent accounts opened by one person using deepfakes, to personalised attacks targeting family members and high net worth individuals, the threat has moved well beyond the boardroom. This episode gets into what organisations can actually do about it, from how detection technology works and where it fits in a security stack, to why verifying identity in digital spaces needs to become as normal as challenging someone without a badge in a physical office.
Three key talking points:
If you caught the first episode, this one goes further. If you didn't, take a look! Either way, deepfakes aren't just on their way. They're already here.
On why the real problem is what we're not catching:
“We need to put doubt in any digital media we handle and get used to trying to verify if content coming from unknown sources can be manipulated or completely generated by AI tools.”
Lorenzo Zoffoli
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
In this episode, we covered the following topics:Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
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Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
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Why do so many vendors still get it wrong when selling to security leaders?
Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we share our take on the world of cybersecurity with direct, practical advice for professionals and business owners alike. I'm Jim and in this episode, I'm joined by Marius Poskus, CISO at a fintech organisation and host of the Cyber Diaries podcast, and Simon Woods, co-founder of One Compliance and a salesperson who's been working in cybersecurity sales for over 15 years.
If you're a CISO, you already know how this goes. The same regurgitated emails, the "just 30 seconds of your time" cold calls, the pitches that lead with product features instead of understanding what problem you're actually trying to solve. It's one of the most complained about topics on LinkedIn and in this episode we sit down with a CISO who gets sold to every day and also someone who does the selling to talk about why so much of it is broken.
The conversation covers why persistence without research is just spam, why the best vendor relationships take years to build, why AI-generated outreach is making things worse and what salespeople actually need to do differently if they want to get through the door. Whether you're on the receiving end of the hundredth cold approach this week or you're a vendor trying to work out why nobody's responding, there's something in this for both sides.
Three key talking points:
Why most sales approaches fail before they even start: Sales in cybersecurity has a low barrier to entry, and it shows. We talk why the industry seems to have settled into a cycle of lazy, templated outreach that treats every CISO the same. We cover why this isn't just annoying for the people on the receiving end but how it actively damages the reputation of vendors who might genuinely have something useful to offer.
Relationships over transactions: The best vendor relationships in cybersecurity don't start with a sale. They start with genuine engagement, understanding someone's challenges and being useful before there's any commercial benefit. This episode makes the case that the salespeople who build real connections, who act as a first port of call rather than a product pusher, are the ones who eventually get through the door.
What good actually looks like: So what does getting it right look like? We break down the practical habits and mindset shifts that separate the salespeople who get responses from the ones who get blocked, and why the answer has far less to do with product knowledge than most people think.
If you've ever wanted to tell a salesperson exactly where they're going wrong, this episode does it for you. And if you're the salesperson, consider this a free masterclass.
On what every salesperson should think about before hitting send:
“Salespeople are not trying to understand the problems that CISOs face. It's all about selling features and product instead of understanding where the pain points are."
Marius Poskus
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
In this episode, we covered the following topics:
Resources Mentioned
Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss
One Compliance
RMI Cyber
Cyber Diaries podcast
CTRL+ALT+DEFEND
Connect with your host James Rees
Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
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Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
Website: www.razorthorn.com
All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
What happens when an AI model can find more vulnerabilities in a day than a red team could find in a year?
Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we share our take on the world of cybersecurity with direct, practical advice for professionals and business owners alike. I'm Jim and in this episode, I'm joined by Martin Voelk, penetration tester and AI red teamer, and Jonathan Care, lead analyst at KuppingerCole covering AI and cybersecurity.
Anthropic recently announced Mythos, a security-focused AI model reportedly capable of discovering vulnerabilities that have gone undetected for decades, including a 27-year-old bug in OpenBSD. But how much of this is genuine breakthrough and how much is marketing? This episode cuts through the hype and asks what Mythos actually means for the cybersecurity industry, from the arms race it signals between AI model providers to the competitive implications of restricting access to a small group of US-based companies.
The conversation goes well beyond Mythos itself, into the reality that AI-powered hacking at scale is already happening, that existing models have already been used to compromise government infrastructure, and that open source and non-Western alternatives are freely available to anyone who wants them. With 80% of code now being vibe coded with minimal security checks, jailbreaking tools available on the open web and CISOs unable to keep pace with the speed of adoption, the question isn't whether AI will change cybersecurity. It's whether the industry can adapt fast enough to survive what's already here.
Three key talking points:
Whether Mythos lives up to the hype or not, the arms race it signals is already underway. If you want to understand what that means for cybersecurity, this is the conversation to listen to.
On the implications of restricting AI security models:
“Anthropic may be doing this, but for those of us who are not lucky enough to be Anthropic's friend, other countries, other organisations are not so circumspect.”
Jonathan Care
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
In this episode, we covered the following topics:Anthropic – Mythos/Project Glasswing
Mexican Government Cyberattack
GodMode AI / Pliny the Prompter (jailbreaking harness)
Hugging Face (uncensored models)
OpenClaw
DeepSeek (Chinese AI model)
KuppingerCole
SpartanX Technologies / SpartanX AI
Connect with your host James ReesHello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
Instagram: Razorwire Podcast
Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
Website: www.razorthorn.com
All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
What happens when your organisation adopts AI faster than your security strategy can keep up?
Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we share our take on the world of cybersecurity with direct, practical advice for professionals and business owners alike. I'm Jim, and in this episode, I'm joined by Martin Voelk, penetration tester and AI red teamer, and Jonathan Care, lead analyst covering the intersection of AI, cybersecurity and identity.
We started out planning to talk about the rise of CTEM (Continuous Threat Exposure Management) and why traditional pentesting and vulnerability scanning can't keep up anymore. But the conversation quickly went further than that, into the real security risks of AI agents, prompt injection, vibe coding and the speed at which organisations are adopting AI without thinking about what happens when it goes wrong.
Martin shares examples from his red teaming work of how AI agents can be tricked into exfiltrating data and executing malicious code, Jonathan makes the case for why identity needs to become a first class attack surface in any CTEM programme; and all three of us end up genuinely concerned about what happens when CISOs are expected to govern technology that's moving faster than anyone can keep up with. This one ended up not going quite as planned, and it's all the better for it.
Three key talking points:
If your organisation is adopting AI and your security model hasn't changed to match, this is a conversation worth listening to.
On why traditional security testing no longer works:
“You have new releases and new technology popping up almost on a daily basis. And you have vulnerabilities popping up on a daily basis as well. The traditional model we have in place with regular penetration testing, once every three months, once every year, that doesn't cut it anymore.”
Martin Voelk
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
In this episode, we covered the following topics:Gartner
OpenClaw
PCI DSS
Tenable
Nessus
Anthropic
Claude
Claude Secure Code
Groq
Air Canada - AI Lawsuit
Engineering Council of Great Britain
11 Labs
Voicebox
SpartanX Technologies
SpartanX AI
Mexican Government Cyberattack
Connect with your host James ReesHello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
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Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
Website: www.razorthorn.com
All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
The industry is full of people making security sound complicated so they can sell you the fix. Gary Hibberd and Jim talk about what actually works in cybersecurity.
Welcome to Razorwire, where we bring you directly into honest conversations with the minds shaping our industry. I’m your host, Jim, and in this episode, I sit down with Gary Hibberd, co-founder of Consultants Like Us and a veteran of the security, data protection and privacy world.
We talk about why so many organisations pour money into security tools and chase compliance without doing the real work underneath, and why it still leaves them exposed. Gary makes the case that one of the biggest security challenges right now is simply speed, that people and organisations are moving too fast to think clearly, and that slowing down is one of the most effective things you can do. We discuss where the industry is heading, why the focus needs to shift from cybersecurity as a purely technical discipline towards genuine organisational resilience and what it takes to cut through the noise of influencers and vendors selling quick fixes that don't exist.
We also get into the challenges facing people newer to the industry who are trying to work out who to listen to, why communication and understanding risk matter just as much as technical skills, and why owning your place at the boardroom table is something the security community still needs to get better at.
Key Talking Points:
Join us for an episode filled with real-world insights, practical takeaways, and a reminder that believing in yourself, and your value at the table, is the ultimate career defence.
On why products alone won't protect you:
"People go, oh, I've got IDS, I've got a SOC, I've got SIEM, I've got this platform, I've got that thing. And you're going, okay, so when was the last time you sat down as a team and talked about what it means to you as a business?"
Gary Hibberd
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
In this episode, we covered the following topics:Consultants Like Us
ISO 27001
ISO 22301
Fortran
C
C++
Lotus Notes
Lotus Domino
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation)
Data Protection Act
PCI DSS
Real Cyber Awards
Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
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Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
Website: www.razorthorn.com
All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
Are you confident you could spot a deepfake in your next meeting, or could someone be using your identity without you knowing?
Welcome back to Razorwire, the cybersecurity podcast where we explore the challenges professionals face at the cutting edge of threat intelligence.
In this episode, I sit down with Alexandra Jorissen, a specialist in deepfake detection and digital identity safeguards. We discuss the explosive rise of deepfake technology, where it's already being used and what it means for personal and professional security.
Summary
It’s no longer science fiction: deepfakes have become both a tool for petty fraud and a devastating weapon for sophisticated cybercriminals. Together, Alex and I discuss how rapidly these impersonations have improved, from laughable scams to well-orchestrated attacks inside global organisations. We get into how deepfakes are now being used for document fraud, insurance scams and internal expense fraud, and why most people still think they'd be able to spot one. Alex shares inside knowledge from her work with IdentifAI, reveals how detection technology is developing, and offers practical advice for anyone safeguarding digital identities, documents, and core business processes.
Key Talking Points & Reasons to Listen
This is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand the new deepfake threat landscape, and pick up the actionable intelligence to defend against it.
Verifying Identities in Online Meetings:
"A lot of people I speak to, they seem to think deepfakes aren't there yet. Like they would still be able to spot them. And that's a very false presumption."
Alex Jorissen
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
Technical University of Eindhoven
Delft University
IdentifAi
Nigerian prince scam
Will Smith eating spaghetti (deepfake reference)
Arup (British engineering and design firm) AI Hack
KnowBe4
NIST
Concur
EU AI Act
Nanobanana
Oliver Rochford
Brad Pitt romance scam
Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
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Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
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All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
Are you ready for the cybersecurity incident that could bring your business to a standstill?
On this episode of Razorwire, I sit down with Marius Poskus, a CISO and vCISO, to tackle one of the most crucial yet overlooked aspects of information security: incident response. Whether you’re leading a cyber team, supporting your board, or simply keen to sharpen your readiness, we dig into what happens when your best defences fail and chaos strikes.
We talk about what actually happens when an incident hits and why polished policies on their own aren't enough. From the practical realities CISOs face at the sharp end of an incident, through the pitfalls of security theatre, to the importance of clear communications and building resilience, we get into the lessons the playbooks often miss. Marius and I talk through wargaming, learning from unexpected scenarios and how to empower teams to make tough decisions on the fly.
Key talking points:
Wargaming the Unthinkable:
What happens when your CEO dies? When your entire C-suite is on a plane for six hours and unreachable? When someone poisons the fish at a team dinner? Jim and Marius talk about why the most valuable wargaming exercises aren't the predictable ones. Testing unusual, uncomfortable scenarios is what exposes the single points of failure nobody thought about and builds the kind of muscle memory that no written policy can replace.
Decision-making Authority in Crisis:
One of Marius's contacts had a major ransomware incident and needed to hire 200 people within hours. The biggest problem wasn't the attack itself, it was getting budget approved and contracts signed fast enough. Learn why pre-agreed access to emergency funds, signing authority and the ability to bypass normal procurement processes can be the difference between a swift response and days of lost time.
Security Theatre and Why It Falls Apart Under Pressure:
Marius has been making waves on LinkedIn talking about companies that want the appearance of security rather than the real thing. In this episode, he and Jim get into why polished policies that have never been tested crumble the moment a real incident hits, how to tell the difference between genuine preparedness and box-ticking and what it actually takes to build an incident response capability that works when it matters.
Listen and step inside the mindset every cybersecurity professional needs before the worst happens.
On testing your plan:
"You never want to run through an incident response scenario first time when the real thing happens."
Marius Poskus
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
SolarWinds
Cited as a high-impact security incident affecting third parties and requiring significant communication. https://www.solarwinds.com/
Professor Messer
Cited as a free educational resource for CompTIA courses.
https://www.professormesser.com/
Network Chuck
Mentioned as a well-known YouTuber focused on networking tutorials and resources.
https://www.youtube.com/c/NetworkChuck
CompTIA
Reference to a popular provider of IT and cybersecurity certifications.
https://www.comptia.org/
Y2K (Year 2000 problem)
Discussed as a past example of widespread incident response planning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
Changi Jail
Historical site referenced during a discussion of resilience and decision-making under pressure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changi_Prison
Rorke’s Drift
Brought up as a historical account to learn about resilience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift
Apollo 13 (“Houston, we have a problem”)
Referenced as an example of problem solving under extreme pressure with limited resources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_13
US Military zombie apocalypse wargaming
Referenced as an example of creative scenario planning for incident response.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONOP_8888
The Y-Files
Referenced as a source of conspiracy theories and unusual scenarios Jim enjoys.
https://www.youtube.com/@TheYFiles
Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
Instagram: Razorwire Podcast
Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
Website: www.razorthorn.com
All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
Is there really honour amongst cybercriminals or is it every hacker for themselves?
On this episode of Razorwire, I’m joined by Martin Voelk, a seasoned ethical hacker, to take a look at how the world’s most notorious cybercriminal groups really operate. We trace the journey from early hacking culture to today’s sprawling underworld of digital organised crime. Along the way, we ask: What does "hacker" truly mean and who actually gets caught when the authorities close in?
We discuss the blurred lines between white hat and black hat hackers and why some of the most skilled operators never set foot in the countries they target. Martin and I explore the various motivations behind cyber attacks, from ideology to pure profit and debate why classic notions of criminal “honour” simply don’t hold up in this ruthless business. We share stories from both sides of the fence - how cyber gangs operate like corporations, how rivalry and betrayal play out behind the scenes and why it’s never been easier to get started in cybercrime (if you’re not fussy about the law). The episode closes with a stark look at the arms race between attackers and defenders and what it means for the future of cybersecurity.
Three key talking points
Tune in and arm yourself with real-world insights that go beyond the headlines - because what you don’t know about the criminal underground could be your biggest risk.
AI-Powered Cyber Threats Target Weaker Defences:
"Because the hackers are predominantly looking at the weakest targets, does it make sense to hack into the most sophisticated bank in the United States? Or do I rather target a mid-sized bank in Mexico where I already know that they had previous security vulnerabilities?"
Martin Voelk
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
Silk Road
Dread Pirate Roberts
Conti Files
Chaos Computer Club
GitHub
Hugging Face
Claude Code
Cursor CLI
Google Anti-Gravity
Flipper Zero
Tor network
El Salvador crypto currency acceptance
Tron chain
Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
LinkedIn: Razorthorn Security
YouTube: Razorthorn Security
TikTok: Razorwire Podcast
Instagram: Razorwire Podcast
Twitter: @RazorThornLTD
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All rights reserved. © Razorthorn Security LTD 2025
What threats should CISOs prioritise as we move into 2026?
Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we share our take on the world of cybersecurity with direct, practical advice for professionals and business owners alike. I'm Jim and in this episode, we're looking ahead to the challenges facing security leaders in 2026.
I'm joined by Richard Cassidy, EMEA CISO at Rubrik, and together, we discuss the three themes dominating CISO conversations: navigating the expanding regulatory landscape, preparing for quantum computing's impact on existing cryptography and understanding how attackers are shifting from loud ransomware to quiet economic warfare through time drag operations.
Summary
This episode examines the strategic and operational challenges CISOs face in 2026. The conversation covers how evolving regulations require fundamental changes to business operations and threat response, why tabletop exercises with executive teams are becoming standard practice for testing organisational maturity and how quantum computing is moving from theoretical concern to practical planning requirement.
Richard and Jim discuss the technological shifts happening simultaneously with AI and quantum computing and why security awareness gained during the pandemic is being eroded by the race to implement new technologies without proper security consideration.
The episode explores how attackers are evolving beyond traditional ransomware towards time drag operations that threaten business continuity without triggering incident declarations and why the combination of deepfakes and AI-driven social engineering represents a fundamental challenge to shared reality.
Three Key Talking Points:
The Regulatory Burden and Tabletop Testing
Learn about the regulatory challenges CISOs face across DORA, NIS2 and evolving frameworks, plus why organisations are increasingly running tabletop exercises with executive teams. Discover how war gaming activities help boards understand real-world breach scenarios and test organisational maturity beyond traditional red teaming. Find out how recent breaches at companies like Ubisoft, M&S and Jaguar Land Rover are driving leadership to take security seriously.
Quantum Computing's Imminent Impact
Understand why quantum computing has moved from background concern to top-three CISO priority for 2026 to 2028. Explore the timeline for quantum threats to existing cryptography, what organisations need to do now to prepare for post-quantum cryptography and why there's significant uncertainty around adoption strategies. See how quantum computing combines with AI to create a tectonic shift in security technology that requires planning today.
Time Drag Operations and Economic Warfare
Discover the shift from loud ransomware to quiet time drag attacks where threat actors threaten extended operational downtime rather than data theft. Learn why boards will pay millions to restore business continuity without declaring cyber incidents and how attackers are exploiting the economic model where disruption costs more than ransom. Explore how this combines with AI-powered deepfakes and social engineering to create attacks that undermine shared reality itself.
On the appearance of security:
"The economic model of cybercrime has shifted from traditional theft to time drag. If attackers know they can present you with a problem where you're not going to be able to recover your key systems for an inordinate amount of time, there's a higher likelihood that you are going to pay for a level of data or knowledge that will get you back to operational efficiency rather quick."
Richard Cassidy
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
Learn about the challenges posed by DORA, NIS2 and other regulatory requirements, including uncertainty around implementation, costs and the procedural changes they demand from organisations.
Discover why organisations are moving beyond traditional pen testing to run war gaming scenarios with executive teams, testing how leadership would respond to real-world breach scenarios like those that hit M&S, JLR and MGM.
Understand why quantum computing has become a top-three CISO concern for 2026 to 2028, what organisations need to know about post-quantum cryptography and why planning needs to start now despite uncertainty around timelines.
Explore how the security awareness gained during the pandemic is being pushed aside by the rush to implement AI and other technologies, with businesses prioritising efficiency over security considerations.
Find out about the technological shifts happening with component shortages, RAM price increases and how hardware availability is affecting security planning and organisational technology strategies.
See how AI weaves through every major security challenge, from regulatory compliance to quantum preparation, even when it's not explicitly the top concern.
Learn about the attacker evolution from loud, transactional ransomware to quiet economic warfare where threat actors threaten indefinite operational disruption rather than data theft.
Understand the economics of why executive teams will pay millions to restore business continuity quickly rather than endure months of disruption, often without ever declaring a cyber incident publicly.
Discover the fundamental challenge posed by AI-driven deepfakes and social engineering that make it increasingly difficult to determine what's real, including examples of CEO-targeted WhatsApp attacks and voice cloning.
Explore why organisations must improve user education to detect the growing sophistication of AI-powered social engineering, deepfakes and attacks designed to exploit human trust and decision-making.
Rubrik
DORA
NIST Framework
NIST2
Marks and Spencer Cyber Attack
Jaguar Land Rover Cyber Attack
MGM Cyber Attack
Ubisoft Cyber Attack
Corsair
Nvidia
IBM
Scattered Spider
Shiny Lapis Hunters
NCSE USA
Sun Tzu's Art of War
Vaclav Smil
Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
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Are cryptocurrencies revolutionising finance, or are they simply empowering cybercriminals and state-sponsored hackers?
Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we share our take on the world of cybersecurity with direct, practical advice for professionals and business owners alike. I'm Jim, and in this episode, we're tackling one of the most polarising topics at the intersection of finance and security: cryptocurrency.
I'm joined by Richard Cassidy, Oliver Rochford and Jonathan Care, and together, we debate whether Bitcoin has solved any real problems or simply enabled cybercriminals to operate at an unprecedented scale, with 98% of ransomware payments now made in cryptocurrency.
Summary
This episode looks at how cryptocurrency has impacted real-world security and policy, including how it has facilitated over $3 billion in theft by state-sponsored groups like Lazarus to fund North Korea's nuclear programme and romance scams that have drained 4.6 billion victims with zero recourse. Everything illegal in traditional financial markets is legal in crypto. Yet in Argentina, Venezuela and Nigeria, people use it to preserve value against hyperinflation and bypass authoritarian controls. The debate centres on whether governments truly control crypto through exchanges and legal tender conversion, whether blockchain transparency helps law enforcement more than it helps criminals and whether ransomware payment rates dropping to 19% proves cybersecurity is winning despite crypto, not because of it.
Three key talking points from this episode:
If you’re a cybersecurity professional looking to understand both the promise and peril of cryptocurrency, this episode is essential listening.
On the lawless nature of cryptocurrency:
"Every scam, every market rig that has been outlawed in real world money markets is wide open in crypto. As Richard points out, we're not only deregulated, it is lawless."
Jonathan Care
Listen to this episode on your favourite podcasting platform: https://razorwire.captivate.fm/listen
In this episode, we covered the following topics:Hello, I am James Rees, the host of the Razorwire podcast. This podcast brings you insights from leading cyber security professionals who dedicate their careers to making a hacker’s life that much more difficult.
Our guests bring you experience and expertise from a range of disciplines and from different career stages. We give you various viewpoints for improving your cyber security – from seasoned professionals with years of experience, triumphs and lessons learned under their belt, to those in relatively early stages of their careers offering fresh eyes and new insights.
With new episodes every other Wednesday, Razorwire is a podcast for cyber security enthusiasts and professionals providing insights, news and fresh ideas on protecting your organisation from hackers.
For more information about us or if you have any questions you would like us to discuss email [email protected].
If you need consultation, visit www.razorthorn.com, We give our clients a personalised, integrated approach to information security, driven by our belief in quality and discretion.
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