R&B Talks

R&B Talks

By Reggie Payne and Brian KirbyReligion & SpiritualityChristianity
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R&B Talks episodes

  • EP149 - Without Representation — Halloween, Reformation Day & Voting as a Christian

    It's October 31, and most Christians only know half of what that means. Reggie and Brian take on Halloween, the Reformation Day it shares a date with, and election week, when neither of them feels represented by either party. Nobody in Scripture voted, but God's people chose their leaders, and they land on why you show up anyway: your vote, your local races, and the Gospel over every outcome.

    KEY TOPICS:

    • Should Christian kids trick-or-treat? Where the line falls, and turning your porch into a Gospel opportunity

    • Reformation Day: Martin Luther, the 95 Theses, and the sale of indulgences

    • Imagination isn't possession: Tolkien, Harry Potter, and fantasy

    • Nobody in Scripture voted, but God's people chose leaders

    • Left without representation: the lesser of two evils, third parties, and term limits

    • Freedom of religion vs. Sharia governance, and loving your neighbor

    • Why local elections, down to the sheriff, matter most

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Deuteronomy 1:13, Acts 6:3, Matthew 22:39

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    • Martin Luther, The Ninety-Five Theses (1517)

    • Living Waters (Ray Comfort), "Million Dollar Bill" Gospel tract

    • R&B Talks EP148, "Define It or Drop It"

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    59 min
  • EP148 - Define It or Drop It — The Truth Behind the 'Christian Nationalist' Label

    A rock singer calls Christian nationalism the greatest threat to American democracy. A political strategist calls it a bigger threat than al-Qaeda. Neither one says what it is. Reggie and Brian take the label apart, follow the money behind the survey that made the headlines, and land where they started on EP67: bring your faith to the ballot box, never put politics above the Gospel, and make anyone who uses the term define it.

    KEY TOPICS:

    - What gets a Christian called a "Christian nationalist": pro-life votes, the nuclear family, faith at the ballot box

    - PRRI's five-question survey, who founded PRRI, and who funded the research

    - Pew: only 10% view the term favorably, and most have no opinion

    - The few authors who actually claim the name, and the conservative churches drawing their own line

    - The DSA in its own words, and the same labeling move run in the other direction

    - Religious freedom: why faith in Christ must be a free choice

    - Give God his 40: what the number 40 in Scripture teaches about seasons of testing

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: John 18:36, Matthew 22:21, Romans 13:1-4, Philippians 3:20, Matthew 28:18-20, Numbers 14:33-34, Matthew 4:1-2

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    - PRRI, "Mapping Christian Nationalism Across the 50 States" (2026) and the PRRI/Brookings Christian Nationalism Survey (2023)

    - Pew Research Center, "How Americans Feel About Religion's Influence in Government and Public Life" (2026)

    - Southern Baptist Convention, "On Defending Religious Liberty" (2024)

    - PCA Ad Interim Committee, Partial Report on Christian Nationalism (2026)

    - National Women's Law Center, "Pronatalism: Just White Christian Nationalism in Disguise"

    - Chetty, Hendren, Kline & Saez, "Where Is the Land of Opportunity?" (2014)

    - Democratic Socialists of America, "What is Democratic Socialism?"

    - Stephen Wolfe, The Case for Christian Nationalism (2022)

    - Torba & Isker, Christian Nationalism: A Biblical Guide for Taking Dominion and Discipling Nations (2022)

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 13 min
  • EP147 - The Cold Open — Christian Music, False Prophets & Talking Across the Divide

    The plan was a cold open. It turned into the whole episode. Reggie and Brian follow the conversation wherever it goes, from why Christian music sounds the way it does to a gym conversation with a man who assumed a Christian couldn't talk to him, and on to why political conversation keeps collapsing.

    KEY TOPICS:

    - Why there is so little good music about ordinary life as a Christian

    - What counts as worship music, and playing Bethel and Hillsong songs in church

    - Self-proclaimed prophets and faith healers

    - "Those weren't Christians": disagreement is not hatred

    - Having a real conversation without the party labels

    - Dogs, shelters, and whether three is too many

    - Titus and a church that has been playing defense

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Titus 3:10

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    - Brad Wampler, Rooted in Logos podcast

    - Bob Dylan's gospel-era albums: Slow Train Coming (1979), Saved (1980), Shot of Love (1981)

    - Bourbon & Beyond music festival, Louisville, KY

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 4 min
  • EP146 - Blessed, Not Lucky — Why Blessing Was Never Earned

    Why do Christians say "blessed" after a promotion but never in a hospital waiting room? Reggie and Brian take on the most overused word in Christian vocabulary: how it became a synonym for luck, where the instinct to read God's approval off our circumstances comes from, and what Jesus meant when he called the mourning and the persecuted blessed. The answer runs through the Beatitudes, Job, and Luke 13, and lands on a standing no circumstance can move, because nobody ever earned it.

    KEY TOPICS:

    - "Blessed" as a Christian word for "lucky," and why it goes silent in hard seasons

    - The reward-and-punishment ledger: the disciples in John 9 and Job's friends

    - Sowing and reaping vs. blessing: related, not the same

    - The Beatitudes and the woes of Luke 6

    - Job 1:21 and blessing the name in the middle of loss

    - Luke 13 and Romans 3: why blessing was never earned

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Matthew 5:3–12, Luke 6:20–26, John 9:1–3, Luke 13:1–5, Job 1:21, Job 42:7, Romans 3:10–12, 23, Galatians 6:7, Deuteronomy 28

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    - Scripture read on air: Legacy Standard Bible (LSB)

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    59 min
  • EP145 - Not a Species — Wings, Guardian Angels, and Where Our Picture Came From

    Say the word "angel" and almost everyone pictures the same thing — wings, a white robe, a halo. Where did that come from? Because it mostly didn't come from Scripture.

    Part 2 of our Unseen Realm series: what the Hebrew word behind "angel" actually means, how many angels the Bible names, whether one is assigned to you, and what they looked like the handful of times they showed up.

    KEY TOPICS:

    • "Angel" is a job description, not a species — malʾāk means "one sent"
    • Scripture names two angels. Every other name came from somewhere else
    • The guardian angel, graded: dogma, clearly taught, or pious inference
    • No wings, no halos — what the text actually describes
    • Whether a believer can command an angel

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Matthew 18:10, Hebrews 1:14, Zechariah 5, Daniel, Tobit 12

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    • Michael S. Heiser, Angels (Lexham Press, 2018)
    • Catechism of the Catholic Church §§328, 336
    • Aquinas, Summa Theologiae I, q. 113
    • Calvin, Institutes I.14.7 · Hodge, Systematic Theology vol. 1

    — R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr
  • EP144 - Guardians of the Garden — Did We Hand Our Kids a New Fruit?

    Brian brings a premise he's been sitting on for weeks: God forbade the tree to keep Adam and Eve from knowing evil — so did we build a second tree of knowledge, and then open a fruit stand for our kids? Reggie doesn't buy it. What follows is the longest sustained disagreement the two of them have had on mic, and it ends somewhere neither of them started.

    KEY TOPICS:

    • Whether the fruit in Eden was ever evil on its own
    • Unfiltered access, kids with phones, and whether the internet is morally neutral
    • IQ, cognition, AI shortcuts, and what technology has actually done to us
    • Adam as guardian of the garden, and what men shucked
    • Whether Christians are guardians of the open world or only of their own households
    • The Lindsay Clancy verdict and the public support around it

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Genesis 1:31, Genesis 2:15-17, Genesis 3:1-7, Leviticus 5:17, Ezekiel 33:6, Matthew 28:19-20

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    • Commonwealth v. Lindsay Clancy, Plymouth Superior Court — mistrial declared September 4, 2026
    • Musgrove Family Fund (GoFundMe) — $1,060,185 raised as of September 2, 2026
    • State v. Timothy Ray Jones Jr., Lexington County, SC — five counts, death sentence, affirmed 2023
    • Commonwealth of Illinois v. Walsh, Will County — State's motion to deny pretrial release

    — R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 16 min
  • EP143 - The Other Half — Friendship, Community, and the Household We Miss

    Reggie's close friend lost his wife to stage four pancreatic cancer about six weeks after diagnosis. Standing at the funeral, Reggie realized he had known his friend since high school and had never really known her. This episode is what came out of that — a return to our male friendship episode from 101 episodes ago, and an honest look at what we left out.

    KEY TOPICS:

    - Revisiting the Lindsay Clancy case and where our position has landed

    - Why a friend is a family member you're not related to by blood

    - The household as the missing piece in how we define friendship

    - Men, isolation, and why the phone doesn't ring when things get hard

    - How community used to be a neighborhood and is now a single household

    - House-to-house language in the New Testament church

    - What happens three or four weeks after the funeral, when everyone stops calling

    - What not to say to a widow or widower

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Acts 2, Romans 16, 1 Corinthians 16, Genesis 3, Romans 12:15

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    - R&B Talks EP42 - The Battle for Male Friendship

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 26 min
  • EP142 - The Face of Evil — Lindsay Clancy, Candace Owens, and a Law Signed in Massachusetts

    No guide, no brief, no research — just two guys talking about what's been sitting on them all week. A mother on trial in Massachusetts for killing her three children. A commentator who took $300,000 to defend her theories about Charlie Kirk's death and showed up without evidence. And a governor signing away every statutory limit on abortion after 24 weeks. Brian's prayer through all of it: that the face of evil becomes so blatantly visible we reject it out of the part of us built in the image of God.

    KEY TOPICS:

    • The Lindsay Clancy trial — where postpartum illness stops explaining and premeditation starts
    • Forgiveness and consequence do not run concurrently
    • Candace Owens, the $300,000 debate, and evidence a court would accept
    • Massachusetts and the Prioritizing Patient Access to Care Act
    • Becoming foster parents, and what it costs a family to say yes

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Luke 23:39–43, Genesis 1:27, James 1:27

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    • People — Lindsay Clancy trial coverage
    • NewsNation — Massachusetts abortion law
    • Massachusetts H.5595, the Prioritizing Patient Access to Care Act
    • Candace Owens vs. Andrew Wilson, PBD Podcast, August 14, 2026

    — R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 6 min
  • EP141 - The Unseen Realm — Part 1 — What's Actually There

    Most of us were handed two categories for the spiritual world: angels and demons. The Bible has considerably more than two. In Part 1 of a five-part series, we set the rules we'll use for the rest of it — then go to the text and see what's actually in the room.

    KEY TOPICS:

    - How the two-category picture came through translation, and what got compressed

    - Four types of claims — textual, historical, experiential, physical — and why mixing them is where arguments go wrong

    - The manuscript tradition is stable: what a textual variant is, and what it isn't

    - Deuteronomy 32:8 and the divine council

    - Elohim as a residence term rather than a rank

    - Ha-satan: a job description before it's ever a name

    - Who isn't in the room — the biblical text has no category for the human dead wandering houses

    - What the science on hauntings can and cannot actually measure

    SCRIPTURE REFERENCES: Deuteronomy 32:8, Deuteronomy 32:17, Deuteronomy 18:10-12, Psalm 82:1, Psalm 89:5-7, 1 Kings 22:19-23, Genesis 1:26-27, Genesis 3, Job 1:6, Job 38:4-7, Isaiah 8:19, 1 Samuel 28:13, 1 Corinthians 8:5-6

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    - Michael S. Heiser, The Unseen Realm (Lexham Press, 2015)

    - Michael S. Heiser, Demons documentary (Logos)

    - Dead Sea Scrolls; Masoretic Text; Septuagint

    - Translations compared: LSB, ESV, KJV

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 20 min
  • EP140 - Don't Just Go For It — Shipping Line Forge in Six Months and a Day

    Reggie shipped his first app. Line Forge — the debut release from Red Beard Foundry — went live on the App Store on Wednesday, July 29th. Brian runs the interview, and Reggie walks the whole arc: six months and a day from an empty folder to a shipped product, the generator problem that nearly stalled it, what AI tooling actually contributed, what got pushed aside at home, and what he'd tell someone sitting on an idea right now.

    Spoiler: it isn't "go for it."

    KEY TOPICS:

    • Six months and a day from first folder to App Store — including the company setup that ate two of them

    • Over 19,000 puzzles at launch, open access, no pack-gating

    • The real hard problems: puzzle generation and catalog management

    • AI tooling as both multiplier and main frustration

    • Isolate your goal before you build anything

    • A 51-year-old's drum kit, and what "practice well" actually means

    • Why Red Beard Foundry exists, and where the credit goes

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    • Line Forge — Apple App Store: https://apps.apple.com/app/id6790465081

    • Red Beard Foundry: https://redbeardfoundry.com

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    R&B Talks: 2 Guys. 2 Chairs. Real Christ-Centered Conversation.

    1 hr 8 min

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