In this episode of the Wine and Gold Talk podcast, Ethan Sands and Chris Fedor break down the Cavaliers’ 120-109 win over an injury-depleted Pacers squad — a familiar postseason foe, even if this rematch lacked its usual punch. The hosts explain why the victory, while necessary, didn’t reveal much about where the Cavs truly stand and instead underscored how central Darius Garland remains to everything they do.

They dive into Jaylon Tyson’s jolt of energy, De'Andre Hunter’s steady two-way value, and Evan Mobley’s assertive night, while emphasizing the need for Mobley to bring that same force against top-tier competition. The episode also explores the intriguing early chemistry between Lonzo Ball and Garland and the complications surrounding both of their injury histories.

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