Our guest today, Bill Gulas, works with IRA Innovations to help set up self-directed IRAs for people who want to invest their money in alternative assets. In this episode, he talks about what it means to have a self-directed IRA, the difference between traditional and Roth IRA, and the various ways people can use self-directed IRAs to invest in real estate. Tune in today to learn more about this important topic.
Key Takeaways:
[2:15] At IRA Innovations, Bill and his team help self-directed IRAs. The misconception is that these type of IRAs are different than any other type, but they’re not. They facilitate the transactions of buying investments that people want to do other than stocks, bonds, mutual funds, and CDs (ie: real estate, investing in non-publically traded companies, or lending money).
[5:25] How does someone get a self-directed IRA? In the industry, “self directed” indicates alternative assets — at IRA Innovations, you can set up an IRA the same way you would at a bank, by opening an account and making contributions. As with any other IRA, you have to have a custodian — a party who has been given the authority by the IRS to hold individual retirement accounts.
[9:40] At IRA Innovations specifically, about 35-37% of their clients are real estate investors. The remaining percentage of their clients invest in private equities, lend money, and things like precious metals or livestock. When lending money out of a self-directed IRA, you can’t lend money to yourself, your spouse, parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren, or their spouses.
[11:31] What are real estate investors doing with a self-directed IRA that is most common and most successful? Some will buy a property and invest the money they collect on rent, some buy a property and rehab it to sell it, and others still, that wholesale properties. When wholesaling, someone can put a property under contract, and wholesale to the next person before it closes. When they sell the contract, that money goes into the IRA to use for the next deal.
[13:09] Two main types of IRAs: traditional and Roth IRA. In a traditional IRA, you can invest money pre-tax — everything in there grows tax-deferred while it’s in your IRA. When you take it out of your traditional IRA, it is taxed as regular income. In a Roth IRA, you put money in after tax, and anything that you make on that money is tax free.
[16:15] With all IRAs, you cannot get your money until you’re fifty-nine and a half. Unlike a traditional savings account, IRAs were developed specifically for use in retirement. So when you take it out, it has been growing tax-deferred for all those years.
[17:37] Bill shares how he got involved in the business of self-directed IRAs. When he found out he could in fact invest his money real estate, there were a limited number of companies doing this type of business. He opened an office with a franchise, and when they decided they didn’t want to be in the franchise business anymore, they became independent.
[20:23] Some of Bill’s clients have found success by buying properties and selling them to developers, or buying subdivision lots, and selling them off to builders. At IRA Innovations, they help their clients be able to invest in what they know.
[23:55] What cautionary advice does Bill have for people who want to invest their money in alternative assets? Bill’s biggest tip is to do your due diligence — know what you’re investing in, and know why you’re investing in it. You want to know as much information as you can before you invest your money.
[24:43] Although not typical, there are a few companies that will allow you to self-direct in a 401K. It all depends on what is in the plan. There are usually a very limited amount of options in which you can invest, for company liability. When you leave a company, you can rollover your funds into a different IRA.
[27:14] Bill discusses 1031 exchanges — when you sell a property, you have a certain amount of time to find a similar property, and you have to close in a certain amount of time, and there’s no tax on the profits of that sale. Once an account is open, and they find the property, the custodian must sign a contract. The IRA pays the earnest money, reviews the documents, and once the client signs off on it, they send the documents to the closing attorney and wire the money from the IRA; then the IRA owns it.
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