this episode catches up with Lostock St Gerards FC manager Stuart Birch.

LSGFC play in division 1 of the West Lancs league.

having had enjoyed an unbeaten league season, all but securing the league title and promotion & reached the final of the 2019-20 Lancashire Amateur Shield - no mean feat for a div 1 side - they, like all at this level found out of the FAs decision to call a season "null & void"

we hear Stuarts reaction to that news, and as is becoming standard, all about his journey into football at this level.

still in Covid-19 lockdown the podcast was recorded remotely.

we chat with current Vauxhall Motors 1st team manager Mike McGraa. we learn about his journey into football management.

Vauxhall Motors, having won promotion from the North West Counties South divison already, became 1 of only 2 clubs in the whole country that has learnt that they wont be promoted after the FA's decision to "Null & Void" the 2019-20 season due to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Mike & Vauxhall are clearly and understandably gutted.  we chat about how they felt, how they now feel and what next!?

The podcast catches up with Alan Oliver, a ground hopper.  Alan has done over 575 grounds now including the 92 league grounds.  he has an obsession with visiting as many grounds as possible. We get an insight into the phenomenon that is ground hopping and the lengths the ground hoppers go to. Real Football definitely matters to these guys!