Take The Leap

#092: Real Talk on Burnout, Boundaries, and Better Leadership


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Welcome to the 6th episode of Take the Leap's third season. In today’s episode, “Real Talk on Burnout, Boundaries, and Better Leadership,” co-hosts Ashlan and Victoria debrief their conversation with Zhou Fang, founder and principal practitioner of Intersectional Group. We revisit the biggest ideas from that interview: intersectionality, slowing down, choosing abundance over scarcity, and what it looks like to practice those concepts as founders right now. 

Key Takeaways from the Episode: 

  • Leading with nuance because most real-world problems aren’t binary and we must make room for multiple truths. 
  • Progress needs courageous, respectful dialogue–especially across difference. 
  • Building workflows that honor life systems, not just deadlines. 
  • Practicing abundance, even when stress spikes, you should pause, re-ground, and act from a space of abundance rather than scarcity. 

Our Fave Media Right Now: 

  • Tory shared The Veiled Kingdom by Holly Renee: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/204624472-the-veiled-kingdom 
  • Ashlan shared Alien Earth TV series on FX: https://www.hulu.com/series/ac314a24-c615-48ee-8e24-b26de75e64ef 

If you’d like to listen to Zhou Fang’s episode, you can find it at the links below: 

  • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/practicing-intersectional-leadership-with-zhou-fang/id1735641469?i=1000735226606 
  • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0yXq2HBiHVATGtwgQ5bk09?si=jKO39kGIRpCkAvILbdHJkQ 
  • YouTube: https://youtu.be/5S3a8NBTSDc?si=Vv3t57uQdrSmxIR8 

Listen to Ashlan’s conversation with Zhou Fang on The Intersection Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3w9J1iRMP2dZ0A20NTo0p5?si=Lvva-bf6TYmn4IOES0IdzQ 

Host information:

  • Co-Host, Ashlan Glazier-Anderson, Owner of AshbeanPDX Marketing
  • Co-Host, Victoria (Tory) Proppe, Owner of Imagine Marketing Strategies

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Take The LeapBy Victoria Proppe & Ashlan Glazier-Anderson