Nobody talks about how uncomfortable growth actually feels in the middle of it.

Not the highlight reel version. The real version — where you're running a live event, getting a gut-punch text from your dad, questioning every decision you've made, and somehow still showing up anyway.

That's what Lisa and Desi are bringing to the table this week. Real talk about what expansion actually looks like, why your nervous system fights it every step of the way, and what it means to keep going even when every part of you wants to retreat back to comfortable.

In this episode:

• Why your comfort zone keeps you safe but also keeps you small
• The upper limit problem from The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks — and why we self-sabotage right before our next level
• Desi's real-time experience: leading an 8-day live event, facilitating in Mexico, and navigating a painful situation with her dad — all at the same time
• Lisa's journey of finally going all in on herself and her business after years of on-and-off coaching
• Why self-doubt doesn't disappear at the next level — and what to do with it when it shows up
• The role of coaches, healers, and mentors in your growth — and why being witnessed matters
• How to borrow someone else's belief system until yours catches up
• Three powerful questions to ask yourself when fear is making your decisions

Journal prompts from this episode:

1. Where is life asking me to grow right now?
2. What fear keeps showing up and talking me out of it?
3. What would I do if I trusted myself a little more?
4. What edge am I ready to lean into?

Growth isn't about becoming someone else. It's about becoming more of who you really are — and having the courage to choose that, even when it's scary.

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Resources Mentioned:

• 📖 The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks
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• 📲 Find us at Real Talk Real Healing Podcast on Instagram
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Have you ever stopped and wondered…

Am I actually this anxious… this independent… this people-pleasing… or did I become this because it felt safer?

In this episode, we're exploring the protective parts of ourselves that were created long before we had the words to explain them. These aren't personality flaws—they're survival strategies.

Episode Summary
As children, we couldn't change our environment, so we changed ourselves.

We became who we needed to be to feel safe, loved, accepted, or to avoid getting hurt. Over time, those adaptations became the identities we carried into adulthood—the people pleaser, the perfectionist, the overachiever, the strong one, the hyper-independent.

In this episode, Desi explores how these protectors are formed, why they're still running the show, and how healing isn't about getting rid of them—it's about understanding them with compassion. Because when you move from shame to curiosity, your authentic self finally has room to emerge.

What You'll Hear

• What protectors are and why every child develops them
• How your nervous system creates survival strategies to keep you safe
• Why people-pleasing, perfectionism, overachievement, hyper-independence, and emotional shutdown aren't personality traits—they're adaptations
• The powerful question every child asks: "What do I need to become to be loved, accepted, or avoid getting hurt?"
• Why your nervous system keeps using old strategies, even when you're no longer in danger
• The difference between your authentic self and your protective self
• Why healing isn't about fighting your protectors—it's about helping them feel safe enough to soften
• How curiosity creates lasting healing

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This isn't about fixing yourself—it's about understanding yourself with compassion and coming home to who you've always been.

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Lisa is flying solo this episode — and she's bringing the cosmic weather report you didn't know you needed.

With the full moon currently in Capricorn and Jupiter making a major move into Leo, there is a lot shifting in the sky right now — and it's affecting every single one of us. Whether you're brand new to astrology or you've been reading your horoscope since the magazine days, this episode breaks it all down in a way that's relatable, practical, and genuinely eye-opening.

In this episode:

• What your sun, moon, and rising signs actually mean — and why your rising sign is the most important one for reading horoscopes - Look up your Birth Chart here
• How the moon affects your emotions, your body, and your 28-day cycle
• What the full moon in Capricorn is asking you to release, reflect on, and realign with — especially mid-year
• Why Jupiter moving into Leo is a BIG deal and what it means for creativity, confidence, romance, and expansion
• Mini horoscopes for every rising sign — where this full moon and Jupiter in Leo are activating YOUR chart specifically

Full moon in Capricorn journal prompts:

• Where is my energy and focus since my January new moon intention?
• Have I made real progress — and where have I been sabotaging my own goals?
• What can I release or forgive right now?
• What can I do today that my future self will thank me for?

This is your cosmic permission slip to reflect, release, and step into the second half of the year with clarity and confidence. ✨

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Resources & Links:

• 🔮 Book a Birth Chart reading or Oracle Card Reading with Lisa
• ✨ Ask about synastry readings for you and your partner
• 📧 Get on Lisa's new moon & full moon email list — DM to be added
• Free Midweek Reset - once per month!
• 🌀 Instant Shift — Lisa's new 5-week beta program is launching soon with limited spots. Reach out now to learn more
• 📲 Find us at Real Talk Real Healing Podcast on Instagram
• ⭐ Leave us a review to win a session with both Lisa & Desi

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We're taught to only celebrate the "big" stuff — graduations, weddings, promotions, buying a house. But what about the boundary you finally set? The toxic relationship you walked away from? The morning you got out of bed and showed up for yourself even though it was hard?

This week, Lisa and Desi are celebrating 10 episodes and 150+ downloads across multiple countries (!) — and using that milestone as a launchpad into a conversation about why we struggle to celebrate ourselves, and how to start.

In this episode, we cover:

• 🎉 Celebrating 10 episodes and 150+ downloads across the globe
• Why society only teaches us to celebrate "big" milestones (graduation, marriage, promotions, kids)
• The non-traditional milestones that deserve celebration too: healing through hard seasons, setting boundaries, leaving toxic relationships, showing up consistently
• Why we struggle to celebrate ourselves — productivity culture, comparison, and chasing the next goal
• The celebration frequency: how receiving and gratitude open you up to manifesting more
• Emotional milestones worth celebrating: responding instead of reacting, asking for help, releasing old labels, trusting yourself more deeply
• Creating your own celebration rituals — big or small
• Lisa's celebration: completing 40 days of 3:30am morning sadhana practice as part of her kundalini certification
• Desi's celebration: 90 women signing up for Sacred Return, Little Girl, Big Healing

Reflection Questions:

1. What growth have I been overlooking?
2. Where am I minimizing my progress?
3. What am I celebrating this week?

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We've made healing feel way too heavy — and this episode is the permission slip to change that.

Lisa and Desi get into one of the most important (and most overlooked) parts of the healing journey: play. Not as a reward for doing the work, but as the work itself. Because somewhere between growing up and getting responsible, most of us stopped doing the things that made us feel most alive — and our inner child is still waiting for us to come back.

In this episode:

• Why healing isn't just shadow work and therapy — it's joy, laughter, and getting on the swings
• What your inner child actually is (hint: it's not just your five-year-old self)
• The masks we started wearing at 7-9 years old — and how they're still running the show today
• People pleasing, perfectionism, overachieving, "I don't care" — which one is yours?
• How to reparent yourself without blaming your parents
• Real talk: what happens when your inner child gets triggered at work in real time
• Simple, intentional ways to bring play back into your actual life

Journal prompts from this episode:

• What brings me genuine joy?
• When was the last time I played just for fun?
• What masks from childhood am I still wearing?

At some point, healing becomes less about fixing yourself and more about fully living your life. This episode is that reminder.

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In this episode, Desi and Lisa explore the powerful connection between healing, self-trust, and using your voice. They dive into why so many women suppress their emotions, needs, and truth, and what happens when those feelings remain unexpressed.

Together, they discuss the conditioning that teaches us to stay quiet, the fear of being judged or misunderstood, and the impact emotional repression can have on our bodies, relationships, and overall well-being.

This conversation is an invitation to stop abandoning yourself, start honoring your truth, and recognize that using your voice is one of the most powerful healing tools you have.

What You'll Hear

• Why speaking your truth matters for healing and personal growth
• The connection between your voice and self-trust
• Why so many people suppress their emotions and needs
• Fear of rejection, conflict, and being misunderstood
• What happens in the body when emotions are not expressed
• "The Body Keeps the Score" and how emotional suppression can create dis-ease
• Why emotions are energy in motion and are meant to be felt and expressed
• The cost of staying silent: resentment, burnout, disconnection, and people-pleasing
• Practical ways to begin using your voice in everyday life
• How honesty creates deeper relationships, stronger boundaries, and more alignment

Reflection Questions

• What truth am I afraid to express?
• What would change if I trusted my voice more?

We're extending our giveaway through the end of June 🤍

Leave a rating or review for the podcast and get entered to win:

• A 30-minute Akashic Records session with Desi
• A 30-minute Birth Chart Reading or Oracle Reading with Lisa

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1. Leave a review
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3. DM us on Instagram @real.talk.real.healing.podcast

If this conversation resonates with you, we'd love to invite you to join us for Sacred Return on 6/14/2026.

 Sacred Return is a FREE 8 day live online healing experience for women who are ready to slow down, reconnect with themselves, and return to the little girl within. Through inner child healing, nervous system regulation, breathwork, and guided healing practices, you'll learn how to feel safer, softer, and more at home within yourself. 

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Have you ever reacted to something and immediately thought, "Why did that bother me so much?"

In this heartfelt and honest conversation, Lisa and Desi dive deep into the world of emotional triggers and why they're often about so much more than the moment we're experiencing.

Triggers aren't signs that something is wrong with you. They're invitations to explore unresolved emotions, unmet needs, and wounds that may still be asking for your attention and healing.

In this episode, we explore:

• What triggers actually are (and what they're not)
• Why your emotional reactions often have roots in past experiences and childhood wounds
• How your inner child influences your responses today
• The difference between reacting and responding
• Common trigger patterns like people-pleasing, conflict avoidance, fear of rejection, and emotional reactivity
• Practical steps to work through triggers in real time
• How to use self-awareness, curiosity, and self-compassion to create lasting change

Through personal stories, real-life examples, and vulnerable reflections from our own healing journeys, we invite you to see your triggers through a new lens—not as something to fear or fix, but as powerful messengers guiding you toward deeper healing.

Reflection Questions:
✨ What trigger keeps showing up in your life?
✨ What might it be trying to teach you?
✨ How would your life change if you responded instead of reacted?

Remember: your triggers are not your enemy. They may just be pointing you toward the healing you've been ready for all along.

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This week Lisa and Desi get into the messy, beautiful, uncomfortable truth of creating something new — whether that's a business, a relationship, a new version of yourself, or all of the above. What comes up when you start pushing your edges? Everything that's been waiting to be seen.

Desi gets real about the fear of rejection, her inner child work, and what happens when you're running an online event, detoxing from sugar, and hitting burnout all at the same time. Lisa holds space, they do a live "feeler" together, and they talk about what it actually looks like to honor yourself even when it feels like letting people down.

In this episode:

• Why creation always brings up your unhealed parts (on purpose)
• Inner child work and the fiction we write when someone might say no
• What a "feeler" is and how to use it with the people in your life (outline below!)
• Energy, vibration, and how you show up in everything you do
• Micro practices to get back into alignment on hard days
• Desi's upcoming free event: Little Girl, Big Healing (June 14–26)

Growth doesn't happen in the comfort zone — and neither does this podcast. Come be human with us.

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The "Feeler" Practice A structured space for someone to fully feel their emotions and be witnessed without response or advice.

How It Works

One person asks for a "feeler" — the other agrees to hold space. The holder's only job is to be present, not to respond, fix, or advise.

Setting the Container

• Take a few breaths together to arrive and settle
• The holder sets a timer for 2–5 minutes based on what is needed
• The space should feel safe, supportive, and loving — no interruptions, no reactions

The Feels / Expressing emotions freely

• Timer starts — the person speaks freely on whatever they're feeling or thinking
• No filtering, no performance — just full expression
• The holder stays present and silent, offering their energy as support

Closing the Loop

• When the timer goes off, the holder asks: "Do you feel complete?"
• If yes → close with a few grounding breaths together
• If no → extend for another 2–3 minutes if possible, then close with breath

Let us know if you try the practice or reach out if you would like for one of us to support you in the practice! 

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Leave a rating or review for the podcast and get entered to win:
• A 30-min Akashic Records session with Desi
• A 30-min Birth Chart or Oracle Reading with Lisa

To enter:

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We're keeping it raw and real — this episode was recorded just two weeks before our launch, and we are IN it.

The nerves. The excitement. The imposter syndrome. The "wait, why did we sign up for this again?" moments. All of it.

We're talking about what it actually feels like to step into something big — to put your voice, your truth, and your most vulnerable self out into the world. Spoiler: it's terrifying. And we're doing it anyway.

Because the mission has to be bigger than the fear.

In this episode we get into:

• Why visibility feels so scary (even for coaches & healers)
• Imposter syndrome, comparison,a and the stories our minds tell us
• What recommitment actually looks like when you want to quit
• Why being a mentor doesn't mean having it all figured out
• The importance of having a hype girl in your corner 💗
• How to come back to your intention when fear takes the wheel

This one is for every woman who's ever asked herself "does anyone even care?" and did it anyway. We see you. We ARE you.

🎁 Giveaway Reminder

We’re extending our giveaway through the end of June 🤍

Leave a rating or review for the podcast and get entered to win:
• A 30-min Akashic Records session with Desi
• A 30-min Birth Chart or Oracle Reading with Lisa

To enter:

1. Leave a review
2. Screenshot it
3. DM us on IG @real.talk.real.healing.podcast

If this episode resonates, share it with someone who’s stepping into something new.
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Our podcast launch didn’t go live on the day we planned… F*** 

and honestly? We ended up laughing about it instead of freaking the F out 😅

In this episode, we’re talking about what healing actually looks like in real life. Not perfection. Not pretending everything is okay. But having the tools, awareness, and nervous system capacity to move through challenges differently than we used to.

We share the daily practices that keep us grounded through chaos, including mindset shifts, breathwork, movement, spirituality, and simple routines that help us stay connected to ourselves.

Inside this episode:
 • What surrender actually feels like
 • Morning and evening practices we genuinely use
 • Why consistency matters more than perfection
 • How healing changes the way you respond to stress
 • Small daily tools that shift your energy

This episode is your reminder that healing doesn’t mean life stops being messy… it means you move through the mess differently 💗

Let us know how you feel when something doesn't go to planned!

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