Pastors Sam Yoon and Steve Choi have honest conversations about pastoring well through thick and thin, ups and downs, learning how to ask for help, being human and healthy. 

Just past the halfway mark, Pastor Steve shares many golden words of wisdom and lessons learned from pastoring since 1994 as an Asian American of Korean heritage, all the more important and valuable in this day and age when we're seeing burnouts and scandals left and right.