In this episode, we dig into how the cybersecurity personality has shifted from the ego-driven, hoodie-up archetype to the paycheck-chasing newcomer. The conversation covers hype cycles from mainframes to AI to quantum, whether passion or profit is driving the next generation into the field, and why we think the threat modeling problem is already solved. At the same time, everyone else keeps getting in the way. The discussion takes detours through The Cuckoo's Egg, Sneakers, War Games, and NFT apes before landing on a question we couldn't quite agree on: Does AI actually have a personality, and does it belong in the security community?

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