AI and Generative AI are transforming cybersecurity by enhancing threat detection and response. These technologies offer unmatched accuracy and efficiency, making them crucial for protecting sensitive data. As cyber threats evolve, integrating AI into security strategies is essential.
 
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Corence Klop, CISO at the Rabobank, about the expanding role of AI and Generative AI in cybersecurity, and how to begin integrating these technologies into your organization.

TLDR
04:45 Rob is confused about wrong AI information for a hotel booking
08:20 Conversation with Corence
33:40 How can you identify the state of flow for your end-user in agile practices?
40:50 Going to the swimming pool and disco with your daughter
 
Guest
Corence Klop: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corenceklop/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Osman Peermamode, Director, Data & Analytics at Vodafone Group about data and how can it act as a differentiator and does regulation both help or hinder that progress?

TLDR
01:50 Update on Reimagining Telecoms mini-series
03:30  Main conversation with Osman Peermamode
34:00 AI in other industries and owns the intelligence? 
43:55 May dashboard rest in peace

Guest
Osman Peermamode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/osmanpeermamode/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

with Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

In the complex technology landscape, getting the people right is crucial for success. When the right team is in place, the technology will naturally follow, leading to impactful outcomes. Building a strong team ensures that the organization can navigate challenges and leverage technological advancements effectively.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Amy Williams, Managing Director, Cloud Services Product Lead at Barclays about the importance of good leadership and why is it important in today’s Cloud landscape.

TLDR
04:43 Rob is confused about train information at stations
08:30 Conversation with Amy Williams
43:32 Polarity Management and The Leadership Perspective Shift
51:15 Running the 10K faster and continuing with great work within the team

Guest:
Amy Williams: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-williams-618bb612/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

On the conference's final day, Dave, Esmee, and Rob will deep dive into the near future, concluding the event with discussions on a moon landing and global (space) connectivity between partners and vendors.

• Oliver Buschmann, VP, Head of Strategy at Ericsson
• Round table discussion with Heather Tulk, President Commercial and Public Sector from Telus, Thierry Klein President, Bell Labs Solutions Research, and Ashish Surti Chief Digital & Information Officer at Colt Technology Services

TLDR

00:33 Evaluation of day 2 and expectations of day 3 - it's all about collaboration
08:47 Conversation with Oliver Buschmann about the future and strategy of Telcom's
37:56 C-level round table discussion about grow beyond connectivity, data and AI and the importance of cybersecurity vs new trends
1:22:50 Overall MWC reflections by the team including the Tapas and Sapas framework®

Guests
Oliver Buschmann: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-buschmann-4751a8/
Heather Tulk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathertulk/ 
Thierry Klein: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thierry-klein/ 
Ashish Surti: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishsurti/

Guest host: Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

On the second day of the conference, Dave, Esmee, and Rob had very exciting conversations about AI trends with:

• Chris Penrose, Global VP for Business Development for Telcos at NVIDIA
• Kaaren Hilsen, Head of AI Factory at Telenor

TLDR:
00:37: Evaluation of day 1 and expectations of day 2 - it's all about AI and the future
6:03: Conversation with Chris Penrose about NVIDIA partnerships and trends
42:25: Conversation with Kaaren Hilsen about setting up the AI factory
1:11:20 Reflections on day 2 by the team

Guest
Chris Penrose: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-penrose-7742441/
Kaaren Hilsen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaarenhilsen/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.

Dave, Esmee and Rob set out the main themes of the Conference and have an exciting conversation with:

• Ahmad Latif Ali, Associate VP EMEA Telecommunication at Insights, Analyst at IDC
• Tobias Larsson, B2B Head of Telia

TLDR
00:35 Welcome back at MWC in Barcelona!
08:35 Conversation with Ahmad Latif Ali about the 5 trends
49:00 Conversation with Tobias Larssson
1:10:12 Conclusion Day 1

Guest
Ahmad Latif Ali: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmadlali/
Tobias Larsson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-larsson-82b39a4/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Sovereign AI is to become a cornerstone of national strategies, enabling countries to develop their own AI infrastructure and capabilities, thereby enhancing strategic resilience and fostering innovation, it will also play a crucial role in sectors such as healthcare and finance, driving advancements and improving security in an increasingly interconnected world.
 
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Chris Stokel-Walker, Journalist, author and communicator specializing in tech, AI, and digital culture (including YouTube and TikTok) about the notion of sovereign AI and how that might develop as part of the AI world going forward.

TLDR
04:50 Rob is confused about Net Neutrality
08:40 Cloud conversation with Chris Stokel-Walker
45:42 Superintelligence and how the public and policymakers understand and react to technology 
54:50 Going to an art exhibition opening and e-textiles 

Guest:
Chris Stokel-Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stokel/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Every organization is built on people, structures, and culture. But culture isn’t static—it evolves with every interaction, ambition, and shift in circumstance. As IT drives business transformation, new technologies reshape how people connect and collaborate. In this ever-changing landscape, a strong, adaptive culture is the key to lasting success.
 
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Jitske Kramer, Corporate Anthropologist about what is a culture, where does it come from, what does change mean and what we go through when transformation happens to people.

TLDR
02:00 Rob is confused about AI models and DeepSeek
09:42 Cloud conversation with Jitske Kramer
48:15 Are we creating a digital environment where ‘free will’ gradually fades away?
56:30 Finally we found a great restaurant and Patterns of Life documentary

Guest:
Jitske Kramer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jitskekramer/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Mallikarjuna Rao, Chief Technology & Enterprise Business Office at Telefonica about the backbone of the industry—the network—and its transformation. What challenges lie ahead and what does the future hold?

'Reimagining Telecoms' Episodes 4 and 5 will be available in the week of February 24.

TLDR
02:31 Update on Reimagining Telecoms mini-series
05:00 Main conversation with Mallik Rao
39:04 Esmee sets up her own mesh network at home
45:39 New job and running the business

Guest
Mallikarjuna Rao: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallikarjun/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Guest host Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/
 

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Digital transformation isn’t just about technology—it’s about people. Culture shapes how teams adapt, collaborate, and drive change, but it also determines whether transformation efforts truly take root. Mindset, leadership, and shared values are the real catalysts for lasting success.
 
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Alex Alves Global IT director Business Architecture at Unilever, about the hidden role of culture in driving transformation success.

 TLDR:
 02:00 Rob is confused about Techno Platform Feudalism

 06:40 Cloud conversation with Alex Alves
 48:35 Research about raising AI as a child  
 58:10 Starting an applied research PhD (UCL, the AI Lead department in Europe with two Nobel Prizes) and that this is an example of "intrapreneurship" in Unilever. Science as an Innovation lever. 

 
Guest:
Alexandre Alves: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandre-alves-b5315646/

Hosts:
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production:
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound:
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini