In this wonderful conversation, we hear about the extraordinary work of Nora Spencer, founder of Hope Renovation, a non-profit organiztion that provides trades education for women and non-binary people and performs renovations and improvements that help seniors remain in their homes as they age. A delightful exchange between two inspiring change-makers, Nora opens up about the emotional challenges of her intensity to push herself and starts taking steps toward her own transformation in this dialogue. Listen as this motivated woman explores her anger at inequity, tries to find her center, and learns how to care for herself.