There's a conversation you and your partner aren't having. It might be the one that turns into the same argument every time, so you've both learned to leave it where it is. Or it might be one you've simply never thought to have, and years have gone by without either of you noticing.
In this episode, we sit down with Tina Mathanda, a Perth psychologist who specialises in couples and Tracey's business partner of seven years across 23 relationship retreats, to unpack the conversations couples stop having, why the same fight keeps coming back, and why the problem is rarely the thing you're arguing about.
We explore what couples therapy really looks like from the inside: the patterns people bring from childhood, the conversations they've stopped having, and the small daily moments that decide whether a relationship can absorb a bad day.
Through powerful stories and real-life examples, we dive into:
- Why the same fight keeps coming back wearing a different outfit
- The Gottman 5:1 ratio, and how couples build enough credit to survive one bad moment
- What defensiveness, stonewalling, contempt and criticism look like at home (Scott owns up to all four)
- The couple in their 60s who hadn't been on a holiday since their early 20s, over a conversation they never came back to
- How to call a timeout when you're flooded, and who has to reopen the conversation afterwards
- Spontaneous vs responsive desire, and why one partner's switch stops flipping
If you've ever walked away from a conversation with your partner thinking "that went nowhere again", this episode gives you the map of what's going on underneath it, and something to do about it tonight.
Connect with Tina Mathanda:Website: www.southperthpsychology.com.au
Reconnect Relationship Retreat
Our next Reconnect Relationships retreat is on Monday 9th and Tuesday 10th November 2026.
Two days to work on your relationship with both Tracey & Tina in the room.
Details at https://www.reconnectrelationships.com.au/
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