This podcast episode features a conversation with Peter Zomer, a Dutch leadership development specialist and practitioner of Dialogical Self Theory (DST). Recounting his insights from an international conference in Thessaloniki, Zomer introduces the work of French thinker Edgar Morin, proposing complexity theory as a compelling framework to enrich and extend DST.
The dialogue emphasizes the need for an interdisciplinary bridge linking psychology with sociology and biology, while addressing the practical friction of translating high-level philosophical ideas into contemporary business environments. Additionally, the speakers reflect on cultural shifts, contrasting traditional educational values with the modern prioritization of financial profit.
Ultimately, Zomer highlights recursion and direct engagement with complexity as critical tools for driving the future evolution of psychological research.