James is going back to the corporate world into a completely new industry and new position. Pretty exciting! We'll hear why he is joining the sales team and what led him into the energy industry.

On the other hand, Sean had a small win with golf and got back on track with some housework. A little reminder that whatever you do, you're being productive. 

Key Takeaways:

• Sales is everywhere, no matter what you do.
• We should periodically redefine what a win means for us. 

Episode Quotes:

James on learning sales skills

[00:02:20] It would be really interesting to learn this kind of skill very firsthand by going back into the corporate, going back into the 9-5 setting, and understanding that this skill can be applied in every aspect of my life. 

James on starting over from the bottom

[00:03:11] I kind of like that in some way. You're starting something new and you can't jump into higher-level things right away without knowing what it is that you're working on. Starting at the bottom just gives you easy goals to hit and having small wins every single day.

Sean on the reality that nothing is permanent

[00:17:17] The permanence or impermanence of things is something that I think the human mind struggles to understand.