Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Evan Sandhoefner about what led him to utilitarianism & effective altruism, the flexibility of utilitarianism & some critiques, pluralistic virtue ethics, whether suffering is necessary & how it may affect animals & humans differently, whether we should remove wild predators to prevent animal suffering, creating unintentional animal suffering, consciousness, ethical meat production & factory farming, localism, universal explainers vs computers, intelligence, and more. In this Episode of Both/And  Givewell David Pearce David Deutsch Twitter Questions The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch Mind in Life by Evan Thompson The Ego Tunnel by Thomas Metzinger Metzinger & Harris Podcast: The Nature of Consciousness Evan's Blog  Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes   Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

#29 Reducing Suffering with Evan Sandhoefner

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Jared Janes & Jason Snyder reunite after 17 months of Both/And hiatus. In this wide-ranging conversation, they talk about what they've been up to and how their perspectives of the sensemaking/meta/liminal web have changed.

#46 Reunion

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder come back one more time to give awards to stand-out Both/And episodes. First, they talk about what they've been up to for the past couple of months and then get to the awards: Most Convivial, Most Intellectually Stimulating, Most Challenging to My Worldview, Most Star-Struck, & MVP. Along the way, they also make a bunch of honorable mentions. In this Episode of Both/And  Award Winners #22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality with Jessica #37 Dancing with COVID with Sarah McManus #42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson #25 Horrorism & Culture with Zero HP Lovecraft #29 Reducing Suffering with Evan Sandhoefner #14 Paradigm Shifting with Erik Davis #19 Contextualizing the Spiritual with Jordan Hall #32 Regenerating Earth with Joe Brewer #41 Simpol Global Action with John Bunzl Mentions Donella Meadows' paper, Leverage Points Tyson Yunkaporta's book, Sand Talk Both/And Meets Growing Down #30 Aesthetic Embodiment with Rachel Haywire #4 Climate Change Adaptation & Meditation with Udita Sanga #24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze with Justin Murphy #9 Analyzing Both And with Nathan Snyder #2 Memetic Mediation with Peter Limberg  Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

#45 Both/And Awards

Jared Janes & Jason Snyder talk about Both/And's hiatus, the sensemaking web, podcasting as a medium, memetic mediation, local community, going 'meta', spirituality, their friendship, COVID, contemporary Vajrayana Buddism, their political triggers, the meta/integral left, GameB, thank you's, the Both/And awards, and more. In this Episode of Both/And  Jason's article, The Psychodynamics of Memetic Mediation Jared's new Podcast Jared & Charlie's Stoa Session Twitter Questions Joe Brewer The Unsettling of America by Wendell Berry Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta The Jim Rutt Show and The Wright Show JRS: EP63 Michel Bauwens on P2P & Commons Tyson Yunkaporta on the Jim Rutt Show: Part 1 and Part 2 Aro gTér Buddhism Charlie Awbery Unified Mindfulness Culadasa Growing Down Podcast with Jeremy Johnson and Ryan Nakade B/A #42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson     Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

#44 Q&A, Hiatus & the Future

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Leslie Rogers about what led him to start the Light Dark Institute, being in a sex cult, kink & BDSM, his dark awakening, personality & identity transformation, dark desires, the difference between light & dark personal work, orgasmic meditation & other influences on Leslie's practices, tantra, archetypes & deities, pleasure, healing & processing, triggering & mythopoetic power, tribal psycho technologies, nonduality, Jared's inner cynic, civilization collapse & catastrophe, death, pain as pleasure, humiliation, stoicism, and more. Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes

#43 Embracing the Dark with Leslie Rogers

Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with Jeremy Johnson about what led to his interest in Jean Gebser, the nebulosity of time, non-linear consciousness evolution & developmental theory, Gebser's poetic disposition & extraordinary writing style, the un-perspectival world, integral consciousness, the limits of intellect & complex abstraction, the ever-present, mythical consciousness, pattern & nebulosity, wholeness & the spiritual elements of Gebser's work, process orientation vs systemization, maps as living systems, comparing Gebser's view to Integral levels, the danger of meta-theories, the value of pop art, and more. In this Episode of Both/And  Mutations Podcast Jeremy's Patreon Jeremy's book, Seeing Through the World Liminal Magazine The Ever-Present Origin by Jean Gebser The Phenomenon of Man by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin The Progress of This Storm by Andreas Malm Jeremy's Side View article, Meta, Modern Small Arcs of Larger Circles by Nora Bateson Twitter Questions Figuring by Maria Popova Seeing That Frees by Rob Burbea  Support Both/And by becoming a patron &/or subscribing & reviewing us on iTunes   Jared Janes participates in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn commissions by linking to Amazon. In more human terms, this means that whenever you buy a book on Amazon from a link on here, a small percentage of its price is sent to us.

#29 Reducing Suffering with Evan Sandhoefner

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