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In this episode, I sit down with Annelise Riles, Executive Director of the Roberta Buffett Institute for Global Affairs and Professor of Law and Anthropology at Northwestern University, to explore the often invisible architecture that underpins global financial and legal systems. We discuss how institutions, regulations, and professional networks shape markets in ways that are rarely visible to the public but deeply consequential for economic life. Annelise brings an anthropological lens to finance, helping unpack how expertise, documents, and bureaucratic practices function as the infrastructure of global capitalism.
Our conversation moves beyond surface-level critiques of markets and into the structural logic of how financial governance actually operates. We examine what financial crises reveal about institutional fragility, how reform efforts often miss the deeper cultural and professional norms embedded in systems, and why understanding the social life of regulation is essential for meaningful change. Annelise challenges the idea that markets are purely technical systems, showing instead how they are constructed through relationships, shared assumptions, and legal design.
What stayed with me most is the recognition that institutions are not abstract forces. They are built by people, sustained by habits of expertise, and shaped by cultural expectations. If we want to rethink global governance or economic reform, we must first understand the hidden architecture that holds these systems together. This episode invites listeners to look beneath the surface of markets and consider the deeper institutional dynamics at work.
Annelise Riles:- https://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/profiles/anneliseriles/
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Annelise Riles’ Path into Law and Anthropology
07:10 – The Anthropology of Financial Systems
12:40 – How Global Financial Governance Actually Works
18:20 – Documents, Expertise, and Institutional Practice
24:05 – Financial Crises and Institutional Fragility
29:50 – Why Reform Efforts Often Fall Short
35:30 – The Cultural Life of Regulation
41:00 – Markets as Social Constructions
46:25 – Rethinking Global Governance
52:10 – The Role of Interdisciplinary Thinking
57:30 – Closing Reflections
In this episode, I reflect on the major themes that shaped Season 12. Across conversations with scholars, researchers, and educators, we examined education through the lenses of policy, equity, leadership, literacy, special education, mathematics, and systemic reform. A clear pattern emerged: education is never neutral. It reflects deeper assumptions about opportunity, power, and what we believe schools are meant to do.
Throughout the season, guests challenged easy narratives about reform. We discussed how inequality is embedded in policy structures, how data can clarify or mislead, how evidence-based practice matters in literacy and special education, and how polarization and conflict shape the educational landscape. The conversations pushed beyond surface-level debates and into structural and philosophical questions about purpose and responsibility.
What stayed with me most is that improving education requires both systemic change and intellectual humility. Research, history, community voice, and moral clarity all matter. This episode brings together the through-lines of Season 12 and reflects on what these conversations reveal about the future of education.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction to the Season 12 Reflection
02:30 – The Central Themes That Emerged
07:15 – Education Policy and Structural Inequality
13:40 – Literacy, Special Education, and Evidence-Based Practice
19:45 – Leadership, Data, and School Improvement
25:30 – Conflict, Polarization, and Institutional Tensions
31:40 – Mathematics, Learning, and Human Potential
37:50 – Equity as the Through-Line of the Season
43:30 – What Changed in My Thinking
49:00 – Where Education Goes From Here
53:00 – Closing Reflections
In this episode, I sit down with Erika Kitzmiller, Research Associate Professor at the University of Chicago Crown Family School of Social Work, Policy, and Practice, to explore the historical and contemporary forces that shape educational inequality. We discuss how schools both reflect and reinforce broader social inequities, and how policy and practice can be leveraged to create more just educational systems. Erika shares insights from her extensive research on urban education, school reform, and pathways to success for first-generation college students.
Our conversation delves into the importance of historical perspective in understanding present-day disparities. Erika explains how examining the evolution of specific schools and communities reveals patterns of exclusion and opportunity that continue to influence educational outcomes today. We also explore innovative models and policy approaches that support student success, particularly for those navigating higher education without generational guidance.
What stayed with me most is the recognition that meaningful educational reform requires both structural change and a deep commitment to equity. By learning from the past and engaging communities in the reform process, we can design schools that truly expand opportunity. This episode invites listeners to reflect on the role of education in shaping a more equitable society.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Erika Kitzmiller’s Path into Educational Research
07:05 – Historical Foundations of Educational Inequality
12:40 – Schools as Sites of Opportunity and Exclusion
18:20 – Urban Education and Community Contexts
24:05 – Supporting First-Generation College Students
29:45 – Policy Approaches to Educational Equity
35:20 – Lessons from School Reform Efforts
40:55 – The Role of History in Shaping Future Policy
46:30 – Community Engagement and Educational Change
52:05 – Future Directions for Equitable Education
58:10 – Advice for Educators and Policymakers
01:04:30 – Closing Reflections
In this episode, I sit down with Christopher J. Lemons, Professor of Education at the Stanford Graduate School of Education, to explore how research can meaningfully improve outcomes for students with disabilities. We discuss the importance of evidence-based practices in special education, with a particular focus on literacy development and early intervention. Christopher explains how thoughtful instructional design and data-informed decision-making can transform learning experiences for students who have historically been underserved.
Our conversation delves into the challenges of translating rigorous research into everyday classroom practice. We examine the systemic barriers educators face, the need for sustained professional development, and the importance of collaboration among teachers, researchers, and policymakers. Christopher also reflects on how inclusive educational environments can uphold high expectations while meeting diverse learning needs.
What stayed with me most is the urgency of ensuring equitable access to effective instruction. Special education is not a peripheral concern but a central component of a just education system. This episode invites educators and leaders to rethink how schools can better support every learner through research-driven practice.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Path into Special Education Research
06:40 – Why Evidence-Based Practices Matter
12:05 – Literacy Development for Students with Disabilities
17:30 – Early Identification and Intervention
22:55 – Translating Research into Classroom Practice
28:20 – Teacher Preparation and Professional Learning
33:40 – Using Data to Inform Instruction
39:05 – Inclusive Education and Equity
44:25 – Policy Implications for Special Education
49:50 – Future Directions in Research
55:10 – Advice for Educators and Researchers
In this episode, I sit down with Rachel Elizabeth Williams, Assistant Professor of Educational Policy Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, to explore how education policy shapes opportunity and inequality. We discuss the ways in which policies are designed, implemented, and experienced by students and educators, and how these processes often reproduce systemic disparities. Rachel shares insights from her research on equity, governance, and the political dimensions of schooling, highlighting the importance of examining who benefits from policy decisions and who is left out.
Our conversation delves into the relationship between policy and practice, emphasizing that meaningful reform requires more than well-intentioned legislation. Rachel explains how historical context, power dynamics, and community engagement influence whether policies succeed or fail. We also explore the role of scholars and educators in advocating for more just and inclusive education systems.
What stayed with me most is the recognition that education policy is not neutral. It reflects values, priorities, and assumptions about what education is for and who it should serve. This episode invites listeners to think critically about the systems that shape schooling and to imagine policies that genuinely expand opportunity for all students.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:05 – Rachel Williams’ Path into Educational Policy Studies
06:20 – Understanding the Landscape of Education Policy
10:35 – How Policy Shapes Educational Opportunity
15:10 – Historical Roots of Educational Inequality
19:45 – Power, Governance, and Decision-Making
24:15 – Policy Implementation and School-Level Impact
28:40 – Community Voice and Stakeholder Engagement
33:05 – Evaluating Policy Effectiveness
37:30 – Advancing Equity Through Policy Innovation
42:00 – The Role of Scholars and Educators in Reform
46:20 – Future Directions for Education Policy
49:00 – Closing Reflections
In this episode, I sit down with Peter T. Coleman, Professor of Psychology and Education at Teachers College, Columbia University, and Director of the Morton Deutsch International Center for Cooperation and Conflict Resolution, to explore why some conflicts become deeply entrenched and so difficult to resolve. We examine the psychological, social, and structural dynamics that drive polarization, from identity and perception to historical grievances and power imbalances. Peter introduces the concept of intractable conflict and explains why traditional approaches to resolution often fall short.
Our conversation delves into the complexity of human disputes, emphasizing that conflict is rarely linear or predictable. We discuss how small interventions, relationship-building, and long-term commitment can create pathways toward cooperation even in seemingly hopeless situations. Peter also highlights the role of education in cultivating conflict literacy, equipping individuals with the skills to engage constructively across differences.
What stayed with me most is the understanding that conflict, while often painful, can also be a catalyst for growth and transformation when approached thoughtfully. Rather than seeking to eliminate disagreement, we explore how to navigate it with empathy, curiosity, and resilience. This episode invites listeners to rethink conflict not as a problem to avoid, but as a complex human experience that, when managed well, can lead to deeper understanding and lasting peace.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:10 – Peter Coleman’s Path into Conflict Resolution
06:50 – Understanding Intractable Conflict
12:30 – The Psychology of Polarization
18:10 – Identity, Narratives, and Power in Conflict
24:00 – Why Traditional Conflict Resolution Often Fails
29:45 – Complexity Science and Conflict Dynamics
35:20 – Tipping Points and Turning Points in Conflict
41:00 – Pathways from Conflict to Cooperation
46:40 – Conflict Literacy and the Role of Education
52:20 – Applying Conflict Skills in Schools and Society
58:30 – Hope, Leadership, and Practical Strategies
01:03:30 – Closing Reflections
In this episode, I sit down with Alex J. Bowers, Professor of Educational Leadership at Teachers College, Columbia University, to explore how data can be used to better understand and improve schools. We discuss how educational leaders often rely on intuition and tradition, and how data science offers tools to make more informed, equitable, and effective decisions. Alex explains how patterns in attendance, achievement, and student behavior can reveal deeper insights about school performance and student needs.
Our conversation dives into the practical realities of data-driven leadership, including how to interpret data responsibly, avoid common misuses, and build a culture where evidence supports collaboration rather than compliance. Alex emphasizes that data should not be used to punish or rank, but to guide reflection, identify opportunities for support, and strengthen decision-making at every level of the education system.
What stayed with me most is the idea that data, when used thoughtfully, becomes a language for understanding complex educational environments. Instead of reducing education to numbers, it can illuminate hidden trends and help leaders respond with clarity and compassion. This episode invites educators and policymakers to rethink how evidence can be used to create more responsive and effective schools.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:20 – Journey into Educational Leadership and Data Science
07:10 – Why Data Matters in Education
12:40 – Moving Beyond Intuition in School Leadership
18:15 – Understanding Patterns in Student Data
24:00 – Attendance, Behavior, and Achievement as Indicators
29:45 – Common Misuses of Data in Schools
35:10 – Building a Data-Informed School Culture
40:50 – Equity and Ethical Considerations in Educational Data
46:30 – Supporting School Leaders Through Evidence
52:10 – The Future of Data-Driven Decision Making
01:01:00 – Advice for Educators and Policymakers
In this episode, I sit down with Deborah J. Stipek, Judy Koch Professor of Education, Emerita, at Stanford University, to explore what truly motivates students to learn. We examine how traditional classroom practices often rely on rewards, grades, and external pressures, and why these approaches can undermine intrinsic motivation. Deborah shares insights from decades of research on achievement motivation, emphasizing the importance of classroom environments that foster curiosity, autonomy, and a sense of competence.
We discuss how teacher expectations, feedback, and classroom culture shape students’ engagement and self-beliefs. Deborah explains why students are more likely to persist and take intellectual risks when they feel supported rather than judged. The conversation also explores the unintended consequences of high-stakes testing and performance-oriented learning environments.
What stayed with me most is the idea that motivation is not something students either have or lack. It is cultivated through relationships and learning conditions. If we want students to become lifelong learners, we must design educational experiences that nurture curiosity instead of mere compliance. This episode invites educators to rethink how they inspire genuine engagement in the classroom.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Deborah Stipek’s Journey into Educational Psychology
06:10 – What Drives Student Motivation?
10:40 – Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation
15:30 – The Impact of Rewards, Grades, and Incentives
20:10 – Classroom Environments That Support Engagement
24:45 – Teacher Expectations and Student Self-Beliefs
29:20 – Effective Feedback and Learning
33:50 – The Effects of High-Stakes Testing
38:20 – Encouraging Curiosity and Intellectual Risk-Taking
42:40 – Shifting from Compliance to Curiosity
47:20 – Practical Strategies for Educators
52:00 – The Future of Motivation in Education
In this episode, I sit down with Jo Boaler, Professor of Mathematics Education at Stanford University, to challenge some of the most persistent myths about math learning. We explore the idea of the “math person” and how fixed beliefs about intelligence shape students’ identities and trajectories. Jo explains how neuroscience and classroom research reveal that mathematical ability is far more flexible and developable than many of us were taught to believe.
We discuss the consequences of speed-based testing, tracking systems, and procedural instruction, and how these structures often undermine confidence and curiosity. Jo argues for teaching approaches that emphasize depth, creativity, visual understanding, and collaborative problem-solving. Rather than positioning math as a gatekeeping subject, she frames it as a domain of exploration and growth.
What stayed with me most is the realization that students’ struggles with math are often less about ability and more about the environments we create. If we change how mathematics is taught, we change who feels they belong in it. This conversation pushes us to rethink not only math instruction, but the narratives we attach to intelligence itself.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:00 – Entering Mathematics Education
05:40 – The Myth of the “Math Person”
10:15 – Growth Mindset and Brain Science
15:30 – Why Speed-Based Math Harms Students
20:10 – Tracking, Equity, and Opportunity
24:45 – Teaching for Depth and Creativity
29:30 – Visual Mathematics and Conceptual Understanding
34:15 – Changing Students’ Relationship with Math
39:10 – What Schools Get Wrong About Assessment
43:00 – The Future of Mathematics Education
In this episode, I sit down with Howard C. Stevenson, Constance Clayton Professor of Urban Education and Professor of Africana Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, to explore the concept of racial literacy and why it matters deeply in schools. We discuss how students experience racial stress and how educational institutions often lack the tools to help young people navigate those moments with confidence and clarity. Rather than avoiding conversations about race, Dr. Stevenson argues that we must equip students with the skills to interpret, respond to, and recover from racial encounters.
We examine how racial stress affects emotional regulation, academic performance, and identity formation. Dr. Stevenson shares insights from his decades of research and clinical work, emphasizing that racial literacy is not about ideology but about skill-building. It involves helping students recognize racial triggers, manage emotional responses, and communicate effectively in difficult situations.
What stayed with me most is the idea that racial literacy is a form of resilience. If schools are meant to prepare students for the realities of the world, then ignoring race leaves them unprepared for significant social challenges. This conversation challenges us to rethink education not only as intellectual development, but as emotional and social preparation for navigating a diverse society.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Entering Urban Education and Africana Studies
06:50 – What Is Racial Literacy?
12:40 – Understanding Racial Stress in Schools
18:55 – Emotional Regulation and Identity Formation
25:10 – Why Racial Conversations Often Break Down
31:30 – Skill-Building vs. Ideology
37:45 – Supporting Students Through Racial Encounters
44:05 – The Role of Teachers and School Leaders
50:20 – Racial Trauma, Resilience, and Recovery
56:10 – Preparing Students for a Diverse Society
01:02:00 – Advice for Educators and Parents
01:05:30 – Closing Reflections
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