In this compelling interview, Niall engages with Independent TD Michael McNamara on three critical topics: the upcoming referendum, Ireland's immigration policy, and the Covid inquiry.

Michael McNamara shares his insights on the ambiguity surrounding the referendum in March, particularly focusing on the government's decision to leave the definition of a "durable relationship" to the courts. He emphasizes the implications of this decision, highlighting the potential need for future referendum votes to amend any definitions set by the courts.

The conversation then shifts to Ireland's immigration policy, with Michael McNamara addressing concerns about migrants entering the country without proper documentation. He offers his perspective on the challenges and implications of this issue, advocating for a comprehensive approach to immigration management.

As the former head of the Oireachtas Covid committee during the pandemic, Michael McNamara provides valuable insights into the ongoing Covid inquiry. He discusses the importance of accountability for mistakes and bad decisions made during the pandemic, emphasizing the potential impact on lives, livelihoods, and the mental health of the nation.

Listeners are invited to gain deeper insights into these pressing issues as Niall and Michael delve into the complexities surrounding the referendum, immigration policy, and the Covid inquiry.