Tangent #9 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)!

For Episode 7 we’re joined by two new chairs (Valentine Smith and Miss Sundi!) to talk all about X-Men '97 Episode 7, Season 1 ‘Bright Eyes’ (written by Charley Feldman and JB Ballard)!

Come listen to us dig into our favourite episode so far 

+ Find out how we've fit the following in:

• The Debut of a brand new segment
• The return of Trifiling Trish Tilby
• Appropriate funeral attire
• Team Rogue did nothing wrong
• Days of Genocides past
• Wading into Captain America discourse
• Jubilee’s earrings
• Ash vs Khaliden continues as new contenders enter the ring
• Western conceptions of ‘The Closet’
• Ms. Bastion’s Blues
• The many failures of Charles Xavier
• Sibling shade
• The quiet firing of Dr. Khaliden Nas
• More brief musical interludes 
• Passé Politics
• Two Dumb Bitches: “EXACTLY!”
• Shout out to Bella Donna
• Are the X-Men heroes for humans or heroes of mutants

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week's recap/review of Episode 8 on Ash's podcast IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and then head back to REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 9 the week after that (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Find Valentine @ValentineSm1th 

Find Sundi @SundiInThePark/@Sundi.in.the.park

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

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Tangent Episode #8 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)!

For Episode 6 we’re joined by our first ever returning third chair Tiffie Starchild o talk all about X-Men '97 Episode 6, Season 1 ‘Lifedeath - Part 2’.

Come listen to us dig into it

+ Find out how we've fit the following in:

• THE BREEZE IS BACK!
• Galaxy of white refrigerators
• Bird ass people and bussing bald bussy
• Stop the Sinister Steal 2025
• The return of our now regular segment
• Storm can’t catch a break
• Alison Sealy-Smith you will always be famous
• The galactic swirl agenda
• A little bit of race play
• Idealism killing everyone
• Ash reads a letter he wrote Gladiator on the radio
• So she just left Forge there?

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe to IMMORTAL X OF WORDS for the full episode + our recap/review of episode 8 in two weeks, and we’ll see you back on REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 7 next week (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Find Tiffie Starchild @TiffieStarchild across social media!

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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Tangent Episode #7 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)

For Episode 5 we’re joined by Matthew Bordenave (Assistant Director & Storyboard Artist for X-Men ’97, Young Justice, The Boys Present: Diabolical, Invincible Fight Girl) to talk all about X-Men '97 Episode 5, Season 1 ‘Remember It’.

Come listen to us dig into all the behind the scenes secrets of the making of this instantly iconic episode. 

+ Find out how we've fit the following in:

• The return of our new regular segment
• Trifiling Trish Tilby’s bumpit
• A too brief Young Justice tangent
• Khaliden discovers emotions
• The Trial of Matthew Bordenave 
• Khaliden vs Matthew (Round 1)
• Brief musical interludes
• Ash vs Khaliden (Round 2)
• Mutant trauma and Black audiences
• Omar Holmon presents a Cyclops Ether 
• The Trial of Hank Mccoy (cont.)
• Nayhooo
• Whities are back
• Clone with a Hard C 
• I know Genosha smells crazy

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week's recap/review of Episode 6 on Ash's podcast IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and then head back to REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 7 the week after that (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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PREVIEW

Tangent #6 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)

On a whim Ash and I decided to review/recap the just premiered 'X-Men '97'!

For Episode 4 we’re joined by my friend Victor Alexander (REFERENTIAL’s own video producer (follow us on Youtube and Tiktok!). We talk X-Men '97 Episode 4, Season 1 ‘Motendo / Lifedeath – Part 1’.

Find out how we've fit the following in:

• The debut of a new regular segment
• The debut of JubilAsh
• Nostalgia
• The trial of Victor Alexander, Beast Defender
• Lorna looking RIKAN
• Bzzt vs Pfft
• An ASMR recap
• Ash holds our hands
• Mojo’s Drag Race 
• White dungarees 
• Sunsplat

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week's recap/review of Episode 5 the week before we head back to the X Of Words feed for Episode 6 (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Find Victor @Clevvergirl on TikTok

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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Tangent #5 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)

On a whim Ash and I decided to review/recap the just premiered 'X-Men '97'!

For Episode 3 we’re joined by our friend Connor Goldsmith (host of the Cerebro Podcast!) to talk X-Men '97 Episode 3, Season 1 ‘Fire Made Flesh’.

Slightly longer than the previous episodes, but when the three of us sit down we tend to get carried away!

Find out how we've fit the following in:

• An ode to Madelyne Jennifer Pryor (who did nothing wrong)
• Jean puts her hair up in a ponytail and gets back to work
• Communal showering
• Hank McCoy’s bedside manner and how to report it
• Morph, Gen Z and anti-sex
• Pray for Nathan Summers
• The Redemption of Scott Summers?
• Popping claws
• (MJP!)
• Chandeliers and Brimstone Clones!
• Magneto and Rogue are sure being quiet this episode…
• Will we see Bishop before the finale?
• Psychic Battles done correctly
• The breeze is still gone

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week's recap/review of Episode 4 on Ash's podcast IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and then head back to REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 5 the week after that (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Tangent Episode #4 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)!

Ash and I decided to review/recap the just premiered 'X-Men '97'!

For Episode 2 we continued our conversation with Tiffie Starchild (@TiffieStachild) and Omar Holmon (@OmarHolmon) of Black Nerd Problems about X-Men '97 Episode 2, Season 1 'Mutant Liberation Begins'.

Find out how we also fit the following in:

• We need to talk about Lifedeath
• Magneto scams the UN
• Jean has self hate, which means its time to get scared
• X-Cutioner, you in danger girl
• Finally Xavier’s fortune is put to direct action
• Storm used to float, now she just falls down
• Gambit checks into the Heartbreak Hotel
• Will the real Jean please stand up

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week's for recap/review of Episode 3 on this feed; and then follow Ash's podcast IMMORTAL X OF WORDS to listen to us review Episode 4 the week after that (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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Tangent Episode #3 (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)!

On a whim Ash and I decided to review/recap the just premiered 'X-Men '97'!

We invited Tiffie Starchild (@TiffieStachild) and Omar Holmon (@OmarHolmon) of Black Nerd Problems to join our conversation about Episode 1, Season 1 'To Me, My X-Men'.

Find out how we also fit the following in:

• Storm & Gambit's hair dresser
• Sunspot's Imitation of Life
• The redemption of Cyclops (?)
• #NotMyJean!
• Why you can't bring Beast to Bella Noche

We'll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week's for recap/review of Episode 3 on this feed; and then follow Ash's podcast IMMORTAL X OF WORDS to listen to us review Episode 4 the week after that (and so on!).

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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Video Episode 2

Beyonce’s Renaissance is over, now we’ve entered the Age of Enlightenment. Welcome to the rodeo? Yeehaw!

I’m joined by Antonia Jade King (poet, writer, and soon to be Dr. AJ writing her thesis about the cultural and historical significance of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air) after watching the Renaissance film for a discussion on Beyoncé and the cultural conversations we’ve been having about her ever since she burst on the scene in 1997.

AJ and I risk it all, come find out if we get cancelled by the Beyhive! 

+ Find out how we also fit the following in:

• Introducing my new silent cohost (her name is Alaska)
• Beyoncé Giselle Knowles Carter!
• The Renaissance film
• Texas? Hold 'em?
• Cowboy Carter?
• Marathons
• Rough swimming while Black
• The Color Purple
• Billionaires
• Black capitalism
• In praise of Black laziness
• Pinkwashing
• Revolutionaries vs revolutionary narratives
• Black womanhood in the context of queerness
• The myth of Black excellence 
• Justice for Ayo! Remember when Jennifer Lopez sang the ’n’ word?
• What we can expect from idols
• Remember bell hooks’ beef with Beyonce?

If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! ! https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner

You'll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.

Find AJ @AntoniaJadeKing on all the socials!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

More at www.alsopurple.com

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Tangent Episode #1**

*Apologies for the audio quality! It's not too bad but we were still learning. Miss Sundi will be back on the pod soon with the mic their voice deserves!*

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Miss Sundi and I sit down to talk about and queerness in the mainstream, baby gays and how we're imagining queer futures.

+ Find out how we also fit the following in:

• Troye Sivan & Sam Smith
• Queer Joy
• Post-Empowerment
• Critiquing with empathy
• Idina Menzel is a 'Beast'
• Queer male bodies
• Latinx Madonna
• Pride parties
• Janet Jackson moaning
• Queer utopias
• Moesha
• Queerness & palatability
• Remember when Adele was dressed like Jamaica?

And more!

If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on the website www.alsopurple.com. You'll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.

Find Miss Sundi at sundi.in.the.park on Instagram and & @MJSundi elsewhere.

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

More at www.alsopurple.com

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

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Video episode 1

I'm joined by Ash Alleyne for a discussion about the state of Black representation in superhero, fantasy and science fiction media.

+ Find out how we also fit the following in:

• Black Telepaths or the lack of them in comics
• Reading against the grain
• Storm & Marvel & The X-Men
• Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom
• Uhura & Star Trek
• Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
• Insecure
• Queen Sugar
• Richard Ayoade being disappointing
• Aircoolers or Airfryers
• Star Wars
• Judge Dredd & The Empire...good?
• And much more!

If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on my website! https://www.alsopurple.com/referential1

You'll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts.

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

More at www.alsopurple.com

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/referential/donations

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy