ReFi Podcast

ReFi Podcast

By Tereza Bízková, Maya Z. DentzelTechnology
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ReFi Podcast episodes

  • Investing in Forests with Pete Corke | S4E5: Regeneration Nexus

    In this episode of the ReFi podcast, hosts Maya and Tereza interview Pete Corke, a regenerative innovator and visionary behind the indigenous-led project Kwaxala. The discussion focuses on transitioning from extractive to regenerative economies, specifically in the context of British Columbia's rainforests. Pete shares how Kwaxala aims to replace logging rights with the right to regenerate, creating economic structures that recognize and prioritize Indigenous land rights. The episode delves into the challenges of implementing this revolutionary business model, including legal and systemic barriers, and highlights the need for collaboration in the regenerative finance community. Pete emphasizes the importance of valuing and holding natural assets while connecting with native communities and using innovative financing mechanisms like protected forest shares and eco credits.


    👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast

    👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist

    👉 Kwaxala’s Website: http://www.kwaxala.com/

    👉 Pete's LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-corke-82063a3/ 👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova

    👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel


    00:00 Introduction to Regenerative Economy

    00:35 Meet Pete Corke: Visionary Behind Kwaxala

    01:58 Pete's Journey into Regenerative Finance

    04:00 Understanding the Threats to British Columbia's Forests

    05:46 The Economic Structure of Extractive Rights

    09:16 Creating a Regenerative Economy

    09:35 The Role of Indigenous Land Title Holders

    16:42 The Century Protocol: Quantifying Ecological Value

    19:40 Scaling Regenerative Forestry

    24:40 Partnership with Indigenous Nations

    31:05 Legislative Achievements in Biodiversity Restoration

    31:52 Challenges with Indigenous Relationships and Venture Funding

    32:40 Philanthropic Funding and Government Collaboration

    34:01 Economic Models for Conservation

    35:38 Carbon Credits vs. Premium Eco Credits

    36:59 Ecological Benefits Framework (EBF)

    37:58 The Role of Web3 in Carbon Offsets

    42:31 Tech Stack and Future Plans

    46:46 Advice for the ReFi Community

    47:28 The Bigger Picture: Regenerative vs. Extractive Economies

    55:47 Rapid Fire Questions

    1 hr
  • Ecoweaving with Tony Lai | S4E4: Regeneration Nexus

    In this final episode of the economic and systems thinking mini-series on the refi podcast, Tony Lai, co-steward of Mother Tree Labs and fellow at Stanford's Codex, joins Maya and Tereza to explore the intersection of computational law, commons governance, and ecological transition. Tony offers insights into creating mindful economies and shares personal tips for regeneration. The conversation covers institutional versus extitutional approaches to governance, the role of computational law in regenerative systems, and the importance of community-driven initiatives. Tony shares experiences from New Zealand's legal personhood for nature and discusses the development of Mother Tree Labs in nurturing regenerative communities. Key themes include the role of mythmaking, storytelling, and community in reshaping legal frameworks and economic systems. Tony emphasizes the importance of attunement practices for personal and relational growth, offering a unique blend of law, music, and community engagement to foster a regenerative future.
    👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast
    👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist
    👉 Tony's LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonyklai/
    👉 Tony's X: https://x.com/lai
    👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova
    👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel
    00:00 Introduction to the ReFi Podcast
    01:22 Welcoming Tony Lai
    04:34 Tony's Background and Journey
    09:09 The Role of Law in Regenerative Systems
    15:29 Academia and Computational Law
    22:42 Mother Tree Labs and Mythology
    28:23 Regenerative Finance Explained
    33:02 Surprising Insights from New Zealand
    38:18 Extitutional Theory and Community Governance
    43:19 Personal and Relational Regeneration
    46:49 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion

    50 min
  • Democracy, Technology, and Plurality with Glen Weyl | S4E3: Regeneration Nexus

    In this episode, we delve into a conversation with Glen Weyl, a political economist, researcher at Microsoft Research, and founder of Radical Exchange. Glen discusses his work on innovative economic models and digital democracy, emphasizing the need to convert social media anger into productive policy proposals. The dialogue explores the evolution of democracy and technology, illustrated by examples from Taiwan's GovZero and the system of Polis for reducing polarization. Glen also shares insights from his books, Radical Markets and Plurality, and reflects on the intersections of technology, democracy, and spirituality. Addressing the challenges in the U.S. political climate, Glen outlines potential solutions for increasing civic engagement and reducing polarization, and offers his perspective on the role of blockchain and other technologies in fostering sustainable communities.


    👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast

    👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist

    👉 Glen’s Website: https://glenweyl.com

    👉 Glen's LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eglenweyl/

    👉 Glen's X: https://x.com/glenweyl

    👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova

    👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel


    00:00 Introduction to Social Media and Anger

    00:39 Guest Introduction: Glen Weyl

    01:24 Key Takeaways and Episode Overview

    01:51 Diving into Glen's Work and Views

    02:16 Challenges in Democracy and Technology

    06:27 ExploringTaiwan's Digital Democracy

    09:04 Polis and Depolarization Mechanisms

    15:54 Conflict and Polarization in Society

    17:27 Local Strategies for Rebuilding Connection

    18:42 Anonymity and Identity in Digital Spaces

    20:46 Environmental Coordination and Blockchain

    24:14 Refi Community and Blockchain Critique

    29:32 Quadratic Voting and Its Applications

    33:46 Open Source Book and Plurality

    36:27 Future Projects and Personal Insights

    37:33 Religion, Technology, and Personal Growth

    41:19 Rapid Fire Questions and Conclusion


    44 min
  • The Foundations of Regenerative Economics with John Fullerton | S4E2: Regeneration Nexus

    In this episode, John Fullerton, an unconventional economist and key proponent of regenerative economics, discusses the polycrisis resulting from traditional economic systems and the need for a paradigm shift towards regeneration. Fullerton shares insights from his transition from Wall Street banker to founding the Capital Institute and emphasizes how holistic approaches in economics and finance can foster sustainable business practices. He elucidates the differences between impact investing, regenerative investing, and discusses the potential role of cryptocurrencies and blockchain in creating a resilient economy. The conversation also delves into how organizations can adopt regenerative principles and the importance of maintaining a holistic view. This episode offers profound insights for anyone interested in advancing regenerative finance principles and fostering a sustainable global economy.


    👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast

    👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist

    👉 John's LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fullerton-a5abbb4

    👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova

    👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel


    00:00 Introduction to Regenerative Economics

    00:30 Meet John Fullerton: From Wall Street to Regenerative Economics

    02:13 The Flaws in Traditional Economic Systems

    02:30 John's Journey: From JP Morgan to the Capital Institute

    04:22 The Realization of Systemic Issues

    06:15 Understanding Regeneration: Beyond Sustainability

    15:13 The Role of Finance in Regeneration

    22:05 Corporate Challenges in Adopting Regenerative Economics

    29:59 Understanding Health Indicators

    31:03 The Concept of Regeneration

    31:37 Economic System Transformation

    32:43 Living Systems and Business Models

    34:38 The Role of Technology in Regeneration

    37:59 Complementary Currencies and Resilience

    44:20 The Future of Finance

    50:53 Rapid Fire Questions


    55 min
  • Bioregional Finance with Samantha Power | S4E1: Regeneration Nexus

    In the first episode of Season Four of the ReFi Podcast “The Regeneration Nexus,” hosts Maya and Tereza interview Samantha Power, a regenerative economist, futurist, bioregionalist, and co-founder of the BioFi Project. Samantha discusses her new book, 'Bioregional Finance and Facilities: Reimagining Finance to Regenerate Our Planet,' and delves into the concepts of bioregionalism and decentralized technology to foster place-based approaches for ecological and cultural regeneration. She outlines the idea of bioregional financing facilities (BFFs) and their potential to decentralize financial governance, organize synergistic portfolios of projects, and catalyze the transition to regenerative economies. They also discuss innovative mechanisms such as eco-credits, nature-based currencies, and web3 technologies as tools to support these goals.


    ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast

    ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist

    Samantha's LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthapower/

    BioFi Project: https://www.biofi.earth

    Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova

    Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel

    Support ReFi Podcast: https://buymeacoffee.com/refipodcast

    https://giveth.io/project/refi-podcast-season-4-the-regeneration-nexus



    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to Regeneration Nexus Podcast

    01:26 Meet Samantha Power: Regenerative Economist

    02:12 The Bigger Picture: Traditional Systems and Ecological Harm

    06:04 Defining Regenerative Economy

    12:07 Bioregional Financing Facilities Explained

    16:30 The Role of Bioregions in Regeneration

    38:05 Innovative Financial Mechanisms and Web3 Technologies

    46:17 Future of Bioregional Financing Facilities

    50:23 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action


    54 min
  • ReFi Medellín with Tereza Bízková and Juan Giraldo | S3 BONUS episode

    In this bonus episode of the ReFi Podcast, John Ellison sits down with the new co-hosts of season 4, Maya Dentzel and Tereza Bízková, along with her colleague Juan Giraldo from ReFi Medellín, ReFi DAO’s local node. They discuss the incredible work being done in Medellín, Colombia, to drive the Web3 movement through community events and sustainable practices.


    👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast

    👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist

    👉 John Ellison’s X profile: https://twitter.com/climateXcrypto

    👉 ReFi Podcast's Giveth grant: https://giveth.io/project/refi-podcast-season-4-the-regeneration-nexus

    👉 ReFi Medellín's Giveth grant: https://giveth.io/project/refi-medellin

    👉 Juan's X profile is here: https://x.com/0xj4an

    👉 Tereza's X profile: https://x.com/TerezaBizkova

    👉 Maya's X: https://x.com/mayazdentzel


    Timestamps:

    00:26 Welcome to ReFi Podcast

    01:57 Meet the Hosts and Guests

    03:22 Vision for ReFi Podcast Season Four

    05:30 The Story of ReFi Medellin

    06:51 Personal Journeys into ReFi

    08:10 Community Engagement and Events

    12:56 Challenges and Solutions in ReFi Medellin

    22:09 Innovative Onboarding Strategies

    25:23 Micro Lending and Financial Inclusion

    30:51 Demographics of ReFi Medellin Local Node

    32:00 Fundraising and Key Metrics

    34:19 Fundraising Strategies and Marketing

    41:05 Team Dynamics and Lessons Learned

    44:06 Governance and Decision Making

    46:16 Expansion of Local Nodes in Colombia

    50:55 Future Projects and Vision

    54:11 Getting Involved and Final Reflections

    1 hr
  • The Next Wave of ReFi Is Here! │ Season 3 Episode 25 🎧

    In this insightful episode, join host John Ellison as he delves deep into the regenerative finance (ReFi) movement, exploring its intersection with climate action and Web 3 technology.

    John shares his gratitude for the journey so far and his excitement for what lies ahead. We start with a retrospective look at the progress and challenges faced by the ReFi community during the bear market of 2022 and 2023, highlighting projects that have successfully maintained momentum.

    As we move into 2024 and beyond, our host discusses the emerging surge of interest and enthusiasm that is shaping the future of ReFi. This episode also covers the significant shifts in the mainstream acceptance of digital assets, including Bitcoin ETFs and the anticipation of Ethereum ETFs, which are likely to introduce a cascade of new financial instruments.Furthermore, John shares personal reflections from his recent mini-sabbatical, offering insights gained from time spent in nature and conversations with diverse leaders outside the traditional ReFi space.

    Key narratives expected to drive the ReFi movement towards greater impact and adoption are introduced, along with core concepts that underpin the movement. For newcomers and OGs alike, this episode provides valuable ideas and insights to deepen engagement with ReFi. Don’t miss this comprehensive analysis of where ReFi stands today and its promising direction forward.


    A special thanks to Marcio Vilela for the beautiful art photography on the wall from his Superflora collection in the Amazon.



    Time Stamps:

    [00:00:00] Teaser

    [00:01:08] Introduction

    [00:02:23] A Token Of Gratitude

    [00:03:11] The First Wave of ReFi

    [00:06:30] Reality and The State Of Our Nervous System

    [00:11:57] Top Level Narratives

    [00:12:20] ReFi Is Not Just About Web3

    [00:14:16] Moving Beyond Carbon

    [00:16:43] Funding Public Goods

    [00:19:04] Bringing Real World Assets On Chain

    [00:20:23] Green Accountability 

    [00:23:47] Foundational Tech For ReFi 

    [00:24:25] Market Mechanisms

    [00:26:00] Climate Data

    [00:28:00] Registries 

    [00:31:15] Methodologies

    [00:34:46] MRV and dMRV

    [00:39:16] ReFi Marketplaces

    [00:41:44] ReFi Exchanges

    [00:45:00] What Will Make The Next Wave

    [00:59:20] Social Coordination Vehicles

    [01:01:45] The Evolution Of Funding Mechanisms

    [01:02:25] Institutional Engagement

    [01:04:00] Being Stewards of Regeneration}


    #RegenerativeFinance

    #ReFiMovement

    #DigitalAssets

    #ClimateAction

    #Web3Innovation

    1 hr 7 min
  • neoslife with Vincent Daranyi | BONUS Episode

    In this week’s episode of the ReFi Podcast, John is delighted to welcome his friend Vincent Daranyi, a former investment banker turned serial entrepreneur, to share his profound journey of self-discovery and his vision of neoslife—a 1,000 acre regenerative village just 75-minutes outside of Lisbon that offers an entirely new way of being. 

    Vincent has spent the last eight years diving deep into life's biggest questions and found a unique perspective on the role of awakening human consciousness in addressing the most pressing challenges of our time. In this conversation we get to hear about Vincent’s transition from working inside the world’s top financial institutions to the pursuit of a more meaningful and beautiful life. 

    He reveals his latest ambition to establish a regenerative village located just outside of Lisbon, which aims to serve as a model for the new world we’re all working to build together.

    Vincent offers some unique and often radical insights on the intersection of spirituality and finance, his stance on the use of psychedelics, and his perspective on Bitcoin as the one currency above all others. 

    The conversation also delves into the essence of human energy and emotion, the process of awakening, and the vital role of community in driving the regenerative movement. Tune in for a journey that promises to challenge conventional thinking and inspire a collective effort towards regeneration.

    Vincent’s journey is a fascinating microcosm of the broader regenerative movement as humanity discovers it’s rightful place as a part of nature and seeks to build new systems and social experiments that embody this deeper understanding of what it means to be human.

    Learn more about Vincent neoslife and the upcoming retreat

    👉 neoslife village: https://neos.life/ 

    👉 Retreat application: ir.neoslife.com

    👉 Vincent on LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentdaranyi/ 

    👉 Vincent on Twitter: https://twitter.com/weareawakening1  

    👉 Vincent’s Substack: https://myawakening.substack.com/

    Retreat in April: https://myawakening.substack.com/p/73-unleash-true-greatness 

    Connect with John and ReFi Podcast

     👉 ReFi Podcast: https://twitter.com/ReFiPodcast👉 ReFi DAO: https://twitter.com/refidaoist👉 John Ellison on Twitter: https://twitter.com/climateXcrypto

    👉 John Ellison on LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbellison/ Subscribe, like, and share!Timestamps :00:00: Intro00:31: Introduction to neoslife

    01:21: Vincent's personal journey 

    02:23: Vision of a regenerative village and upcoming investor retreat.

    03:34: Personal growth and community building.

    05:24: Tour of the plot of land 

    05:34: Exploring the development process 

    10:04: Redesigning societal norms and financial systems.

    12:10: Technology for positive impact and societal improvement.

    29:17: Land development: hotel, retreat space, and well-being center.

    29:59: Investor retreat and its objectives.

    31:39: Flow states and aligning with the project's vision for investment.

    49:16: Spiritual journey and views on psychedelics

    49:57: Role of psychedelics as tools for awakening and healing

    51:41: Integrating insights from psychedelic experiences into daily life.

    55:08: Get involved 

    55:36: Invitation to participate in the investor retreat 

    59:27: Self-reflection and contemplation on personal purpose and expression.


    1 hr 1 min
  • Regenerative Leadership with Dom Francks from VIVIFY│ Season 3 Episode 24 🎧

    In this week's episode of ReFi Podcast, host John Ellison dives deep into a conversation with Dom Francks, an executive leadership coach and wilderness guide with a profound commitment to combating the climate crisis through connection with nature. With a rich background that includes a Stanford education, a decade-long journey to becoming a professional golfer, and significant experience in the renewable energy sector, Dom has crafted a unique path that led him to become a guide for those looking to deepen their engagement with the environment and find their place in the regenerative transition.

    Dom and John discuss the broader ecological challenges that would persist and the fundamental shift required in our relationship with nature.

    We’d like to invite you to explore Dom's VIVIFY Regenerative Leadership Program, a unique retreat designed to connect leaders over a 12-week program with 8 days spent in the High Sierras. This immersive experience promises to deepen the connection to nature, oneself, and one's purpose in the fight against climate change.

    This episode covers: 

    🌍 Exploring the urgent need for increased action on the climate crisis and the challenges that persist even with significant environmental improvements.

    🚶‍♂️ Discussing the profound impact of reconnecting with nature on personal well-being and effectiveness in environmental advocacy.

    🌲 Highlighting Dom Francks’ journey from Stanford graduate and professional golfer to becoming a dedicated executive coach and wilderness guide, aiming to support climate leaders through the VIVIFY Regenerative Leadership Program.


    Time Stamps:

    [00:00:00] Teaser

    [00:00:48] Introduction

    [00:02:52] Check-in with Dom

    [00:04:22] Who Is Dom Francks?

    [00:08:50] Working on the Climate Crisis

    [00:12:45] Immersing People In Nature

    [00:18:27] Our Separation From Nature

    [00:22:35] The Nature Pyramid

    [00:28:42] VIVIFY’s Regenerative Leadership Program

    [00:35:40] Changes Taking Place

    [00:44:30] Tools For Regenerative Leadership

    [00:49:50] Long-Term Regenerative Livelihood

    [00:59:20] Communities Building A Regenerative Way Of Life

    [01:04:20] Getting Involved


    A special thanks to Marcio Vilela for the beautiful art photography on the wall from his Superflora collection in the Amazon.


    Hashtags: #Podcast, #ReFiPodcast, #RegenerativeFinance, #ClimateLeadership, #RegenerativeLiving, #NatureConnection, #EnvironmentalActivism, #SustainableFuture

    1 hr 7 min
  • CELO Public Goods Ecosystem with Luuk Weber and Monty Merlin │ Season 3 Episode 23 🎧

    Welcome to another episode of the ReFi Podcast! Today, we're thrilled to feature Luuk Weber from Kolektivo and Monty Merlin from ReFi DAO, alongside seven other stewards who are making waves within the Celo community. This episode is a deep dive into their pioneering efforts to earmark a substantial amount of capital from the Celo Community Fund. The focus? Supporting the burgeoning ecosystem of public goods that are emerging as a cornerstone in the fight against climate change through regenerative economics in the digital realm.

    🌱 What We Discuss:

    • The definition and importance of public goods, especially in the context of climate action.

    • How the emergence of regenerative economics translates into tangible impacts in the real world.

    • The role of blockchain and digital finance in addressing crucial issues like climate change, and social, and economic injustice.

    • A sneak peek into the origins of Ethereum, the hurdles of funding ecosystem development, and the broader implications for open-source software.

    • An exciting six-month initiative that has allocated over 1.7 million in cUSD and 700,000 in CELO to pilot this visionary project.

    • 1 hr 14 min

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