Carol Fitzsimmons hosts the Reframing Heritage podcast, featuring doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. The podcast explores challenging historical topics and offers strategies for reframing difficult narratives. In this episode Carol introduces three guests: Delia Lister, Marie Boesch, and Ajena Rogers. Delia's research focuses on women's history in interpreters' professional development. Marie's group studied the impact of investment and disinvestment on St. Louis parks. Ajena and Carol’s  research examines deep partnerships with Indigenous communities in museums. The conversation also engages about the Model for Engaging Contested Heritage, emphasizing the importance of trust, community involvement, and trauma-informed practices. The model's strength lies in its ability to create connections, promote understanding, and move towards collective healing by recognizing the complexity of historical experiences and centering diverse voices.

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Podcast Details
Host: Carol Fitzsimmons
Email: [email protected]
This program is a Masters thesis project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis.  

Much gratitude and love for everyone who helped bring this project to fruition. I couldn’t have done this without your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. Carol

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Carol Fitzsimmons hosts the "Reframing Heritage" podcast, featuring doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis. The podcast explores difficult historical topics and aims to inspire action for a better future. The episode features four guests—Amanda Berlinsky, Delia Lister, Heather Waterman, and Pamela Blair Bruce—who share their research on climate change communication in national parks. They discuss the impact of climate change on Joshua Tree and Glacier Bay National Parks, the importance of storytelling, and the challenges of interpreting natural disasters. The conversation emphasizes the need for interpreters to address climate change openly and creatively to provoke thought and inspire action.

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This program is a MA exit project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis.  

Much gratitude and love for everyone who helped bring this project to fruition.Thank you for your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. Carol

Email: [email protected]

Carol Fitzsimmons hosts the "[Re]framing Heritage" podcast, featuring discussions on challenging historical topics with doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis. In this episode, Carol and guests, Toya Holiday and Pamela Blair Bruce, discuss their research and their positionality, particularly in the context of Native American boarding schools and women's history. The program ends with "Here's to Heritage" where Toya and Pamela share about their favorite heritage sites. 

Additional Resources and Episode Notes

This program is a MA exit project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis.  

Much gratitude and love for everyone who helped bring this project to fruition.Thank you for your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. Carol

Email: [email protected]

Carol Fitzsimmons hosts the "Reframing Heritage" podcast, featuring doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis. In this episode, guests Linda Nance, Adrian Boone, and Paige Jones discuss their research on educational equity, relational food systems, and Native American boarding schools, emphasizing the importance of crucial engagement. They discuss the field of interpretation and the overlap it has with format educational practices. The episode ends with "Here's to Heritage" where each guest shares their favorite heritage site, underscoring personal and cultural significance.

Episode Resources

This program is a MA exit project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis.  

Much gratitude and love for everyone who helped bring this project to fruition.Thank you for your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. Carol

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Carol Fitzsimmons hosts the "Reframing Heritage" podcast, featuring discussions on challenging historical topics with doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis. The podcast aims to explore contested heritage and inspire action for a better future. In this episode, Carol and her guests, Ackesha Patrick, Lotte Lent, and Ryan Lindsay, discuss their research on Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington, DC, and the Central West End in St. Louis, focusing on the role of healing in resistance and oppression. They emphasize the importance of trauma-informed practices in interpretation and the need for empathy and allyship in addressing difficult histories.

Episode Resources

This program is a MA exit project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis.  

Much gratitude and love for everyone who helped bring this project to fruition.Thank you for your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. Carol

Email: [email protected]

Carol Fitzsimmons hosts the "[Re]framing Heritage" podcast, featuring doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis. The guests, Chaka Johnson, Byron Witherspoon, and Jim Craig, discuss their research on educational equity and trauma at Little Rock Central National Historic Site, and the current development of the Global War on Terror Memorial in Washington, D.C. They emphasize the importance of the four truths framework—factual, personal, societal, and restorative—in addressing contested heritage and moving toward reconciliation.

Episode Resources

This program is a MA exit project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis.  

Much gratitude and love for everyone who helped bring this project to fruition.Thank you for your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. Carol

Email: [email protected]

Carol Fitzsimmons introduces the [Re]Framing Heritage Podcast, exploring challenging historical topics with doctoral students from the Heritage Leadership Program at UMSL. Featuring Dr. Keith Miller, Dr. Theresa Coble, and Robert Stanton, they discuss HL origins, interdisciplinary approach, and the Bob Stanton Lecture Series.

[Re]Framing Heritage Resources-Ep 1

This program is a MA thesis project for the Museums, Heritage and Public History Masters Program at the University of Missouri, St. Louis, under the leadership of Dr. Lara Kelland. Additional support provided by Dr. Theresa Coble, the Heritage Leadership Cohort #3, and the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Views expressed are those of the participants and do not represent the University of Missouri, St. Louis. 

Much gratitude and love for all who helped. I value your wisdom, time, and generosity of spirit. CF

Spring 2025

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