Liz Genever and Nic Renison - co-founders of Carbon Calling CIC - chat with James (JJ) Edwards who is first generation sheep and cattle farmer. They talk about all sorts - mental health, the challenge of having sheep hours apart, conservation grazing, Carbon Calling conference and acknowledging our privilege. 

This is the second of a series of three podcasts were we talk to "disrupters" - people who want to do things differently and challenge the status quo. 

This episode is sponsored by Cactus Tree Guards - https://cactustreeguards.co.uk/ - for all your tree protection needs.