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"Relationships and outcomes – that's what they want and that's what they'll pay for."
What happens when you sell a business that's become your identity? Steve Rupp, a 25-year real estate veteran who built one of Indianapolis' highest-producing teams, takes us deep into the psychological landscape of career transitions.
"I feel like I lost my identity," Steve confesses, describing the moment after selling his successful real estate business. His journey through banking, entrepreneurship, and promotional products created the perfect, though unplanned, foundation for his eventual real estate empire.
The most fascinating aspect of Steve's story isn't just his success but his ability to do what most real estate professionals never accomplish – monetize his business through a structured buyout. "Real estate agents work so hard... and then they just turn off the lights, shut the door, and walk away," Steve laments. His solution? Building systems and models that create transferable value, allowing him to sell his business when the passion faded.
Steve's father offered wisdom that resonates far beyond real estate: "Always retire TO something, not FROM something." People who retire from things without purpose often decline quickly, while those with new missions thrive. This philosophy guided Steve's transition into coaching, though not without challenges. "Am I a real estate agent? I'm not a coach yet," he recalls thinking during the awkward identity shift.
Perhaps most surprising is Steve's revelation about client priorities. Despite being one of the most formally educated agents in the world with 18 designations, he discovered clients don't actually care about credentials.
About Steve Rupp:
Steve Rupp is a 25-year real estate industry veteran who grew up in real estate and led one of the highest-producing teams in the city. He is known as one of the most highly educated real estate agents in the world having earned 18 designations and certifications.
Steve is married to his wife Brigid and has a daughter Anastasia who is a sophomore at IU and Natalia who is a freshman at Westfield High School and is a competitive cheerleader. When not working, Steve enjoys traveling to Europe.
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"The greatest gift you can give anyone is your full attention."
What happens when life's darkest moments become the catalyst for discovering your deepest purpose? In this profoundly moving conversation, a school counselor shares how a series of unexpected events—from being locked in a Japanese psychiatric facility with a friend in crisis to the devastating loss of his young son—shaped his professional journey and personal resilience.
Through tears and triumph, we explore how human connection can transcend even the most challenging circumstances. When traditional communication failed with his delirious friend in Japan, our guest discovered that reciting old-school rap lyrics created a breakthrough connection that lasted for days. This extraordinary experience revealed his life's calling: to help people navigate through confusion toward clarity.
Years later, after establishing his career and family in the United States, unimaginable tragedy struck when his eight-year-old son Noah died in a hiking accident. Rather than allowing grief to consume him, he channeled his pain into purpose, expanding his impact by leading a district-wide initiative that nearly doubled the number of school counselors and implemented innovative mental health programs reaching thousands of students.
Throughout these experiences, one powerful lesson emerges: In our distracted world, this simple yet profound insight offers a pathway to meaningful connection that could potentially save lives.
About Aaron Ragon
Aaron Ragon is a keynote speaker, education leader and licensed therapist with 20 years of experience in mental health and student support. He serves as a Partner of Student Support in Cherry Creek School District and an Adjunct Professor at the University of Denver. Drawing from global experiences in Alaska, Antarctica, and Nepal, he brings a unique perspective filled with warmth, humor and candor to all of his endeavors
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What happens when life pushes you to the absolute edge of your capabilities? Aaron Ragon's journey from broke college student to global adventurer reveals the transformative power of confronting our greatest challenges.
Aaron takes us to the remote shores of Bristol Bay, Alaska, where a violent confrontation with a troubled man named Earl became one of his life's pivotal moments. With remarkable clarity, he recounts being cornered on a deserted beach, facing a drunk man wielding rebar who threatened to kill him. The split-second decisions Aaron made that night—and his choice to show mercy rather than seek vengeance—illustrate how resilience forms in our most desperate moments.
But this story doesn't end with survival. Years later, when Aaron returned to Alaska, Earl picked him up at the airport. During their drive, this once-violent antagonist acknowledged how Aaron had changed and, in his own gruff way, expressed appreciation and gratitude. This unexpected reconciliation demonstrates how our most difficult relationships sometimes come full circle in ways we could never anticipate.
Aaron's adventures didn't stop in Alaska. His pursuit of meaningful experiences led him to Nepal and Antarctica—the latter journey undertaken primarily because he "couldn't let her go alone" when his future wife decided to work at McMurdo Research Station. These global experiences eventually guided him to his true calling in education, where he now supports high-risk, high-potential youth, becoming "that adult for kids who were like me and just kind of untethered."
About Aaron Ragon
Aaron Ragon is a keynote speaker, education leader and licensed therapist with 20 years of experience in mental health and student support. He serves as a Partner of Student Support in Cherry Creek School District and an Adjunct Professor at the University of Denver. Drawing from global experiences in Alaska, Antarctica, and Nepal, he brings a unique perspective filled with warmth, humor and candor to all of his endeavors
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What happens when we finally give ourselves permission to explore the parts of ourselves we've been taught to hide? This episode takes us on a journey through vulnerability, creative expression, and the liberation that comes from embracing our full selves.
Our guest shares her path from writing teen romance fiction to creating educational content about sexuality. Her novel "These Perfectly Careless Things" follows a 15-year-old artist in London, capturing intimate feminine experiences often absent from literature. Meanwhile, her "Miseducated" podcast and blog have evolved from sharing birth control stories to interviewing femtech innovators solving problems around menopause, breast pumps, and sexual wellness.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn as she recounts hosting a naked party during university years—a surprisingly wholesome experience where friends painted landscapes on each other's bodies.
Most compelling is her mission "to help the world be shamelessly sexy" through three components: helping people identify what they want sexually, believe they deserve it, and learn to ask for it. Her upcoming projects—a sex journaling toolkit, anonymous surveys about sexual practices, and consulting work—all connect to this core purpose.
Despite her prestigious Wharton education that could have led to a lucrative corporate career, she chose a path that feels alive and meaningful. "Don't go to your grave with your stories inside of you," she advises listeners. This episode invites us all to consider what parts of ourselves we might be suppressing, and what could happen if we brought our full, authentic selves into every aspect of our lives.
About Tash Doherty
I'm the author of a spicy, coming-of-age novel, These Perfectly Careless Things, and the Substack, Misseducated, where I'm on a mission to help the world be shamelessly sexy.
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"You can make different decisions from now on as you move forward. The most important thing is to not lose your sense of self in all of that."
What happens when your business school education unexpectedly saves your life? For Tash Doherty—writer, author, and creator of Miseducated—a seemingly ordinary morning run in Oaxaca, Mexico transformed into a life-threatening encounter that would test everything she knew about negotiation, personal agency, and survival.
In this powerful conversation, Tash takes us through her remarkable journey from being a 14-year-old aspiring novelist in London to studying at the prestigious Wharton School, where societal expectations temporarily diverted her from her creative dreams. But when faced with a traumatic confrontation in Mexico, it was precisely these business negotiation skills that provided her with the tools to protect herself when it mattered most.
Beyond the harrowing details of her experience, Tash offers a refreshingly nuanced perspective on trauma and healing. She challenges the often-celebrated narrative of "post-traumatic growth" with raw honesty: "Just surviving and carrying on, working on yourself, doing yoga to feel safe in your body again—those are all wins." Her story reminds us that there's no prescribed path for processing difficult experiences; some people become advocates or speakers after trauma, while others focus simply on rebuilding safety in their lives—and both approaches deserve equal respect.
"You can make different decisions from now on as you move forward. The most important thing is to not lose your sense of self in all of that."
Join us for this deeply moving episode that explores the complex reality of surviving trauma, reclaiming creative passion, and finding your way back to yourself—even when the path forward isn't clearly marked.
About Tash Doherty
I'm the author of a spicy, coming-of-age novel, These Perfectly Careless Things, and the Substack, Misseducated, where I'm on a mission to help the world be shamelessly sexy.
[email protected]
https://misseducated.substack.com/
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Unmasking the invisible prison we build around ourselves, Rhonda Britten shares her powerful Fearless Living methodology that's transformed thousands of lives worldwide. In this deeply personal conversation, Britten reveals how unconscious "core triggers" established early in our lives create patterns of fear-based behavior that sabotage our relationships, careers, and personal fulfillment - often without our awareness.
Drawing from her own extraordinary journey of resilience following childhood trauma, Britten explains how she discovered that her essential nature was authenticity - the very quality she had suppressed for decades while trying to belong. She walks us through her transformative framework including the Wheel of Fear, essential natures, proactive behaviors, and the path to wholeness that allows us to access our authentic selves without effort.
What makes this episode particularly valuable is Britten's practical approach to breaking free from fear. Her "Stretch, Risk or Die" tool helps clarify exactly why we procrastinate on specific tasks and how to move forward with self-compassion instead of judgment. She emphasizes that confidence doesn't precede action - it's the result of taking risks and acknowledging our courage along the way.
The most powerful takeaway? "There is nothing wrong with you, it's just fear." This simple but profound reframe offers a compassionate perspective that can transform how you view your challenges. Whether you're struggling with relationships, career decisions, or personal growth, Britten's methodology provides a clear path from fear to freedom.
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Imagine witnessing your father murder your mother and then take his own life—at just fourteen years old. For Emmy Award winner and master coach Rhonda Britten, this unthinkable tragedy became the crucible that eventually forged her life's work helping others break free from the hidden grip of fear.
In this raw and transformative episode, Rhonda shares how this devastating childhood trauma led to years of alcoholism, multiple DUIs, and three suicide attempts. The turning point? A simple calendar and gold stars—giving herself credit for anything worth living for, one day at a time. This humble beginning launched her journey toward creating the Fearless Living Institute and developing groundbreaking methods that have helped thousands reclaim their lives.
Rhonda reveals that most of us don't recognize fear's control over our lives. Those behaviors we label as character flaws—people-pleasing, procrastination, perfectionism, comparing, judging—are actually fear responses. Through her revolutionary "Wheel of Fear" framework, she demonstrates how our core fears (formed by age seven) trigger responses that keep us trapped in self-defeating cycles.
What makes this conversation particularly powerful is Rhonda's emphasis on awareness rather than elimination. Fear is part of our neurobiology—even passed down through DNA—but by relabeling these behaviors as fear responses rather than personal failings, we create space for new possibilities. The path to resilience isn't about eliminating fear, but understanding it so deeply it no longer controls your choices.
Ready to discover your own hidden fear patterns and break free from what's holding you back? This episode will forever change how you view your struggles and provide practical tools to jump from your "Wheel of Fear" to your "Wheel of Freedom." Your past doesn't define you—but understanding it might be the key to your future.
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Ever wonder what happens when your life's passion, skills, financial needs, and the world's demands perfectly intersect? Jessica knows firsthand. After journeying from personal assistant to billionaires, to English teacher in Korea, to school counselor and therapist, she finally discovered her "ikigai" – the Japanese concept for purpose – in the most unexpected place: mortgage lending.
What makes Jessica's story so compelling isn't just her career pivot. It's how she transformed her own struggles into strengths. After experiencing the stress and confusion of buying her own home, she committed to creating a "low-stress" approach to mortgages that draws directly from her therapy background. Instead of hiding her expertise, she leverages it to create calm within an inherently anxious process.
When a car accident left Jessica with a concussion and lingering cognitive challenges, she faced her biggest resilience test. Rather than hiding her vulnerability, she assembled what she calls her "executive board" of mentors and supporters. Through neuropsychological testing and innovative treatments like rapid resolution therapy (a form of hypnotherapy), she found ways to heal while continuing to excel professionally.
Jessica's practical wisdom about managing anxious thoughts offers tools for everyone. She describes how mindfully observing our thoughts can help identify unhealthy patterns and create new neural pathways. By approaching our challenges with compassion rather than judgment, we can transform our relationship with stress.
The most powerful takeaway? We don't have to suffer alone. Whether you're seeking career fulfillment, managing anxiety, or recovering from trauma, Jessica's journey reminds us that combining self-awareness, appropriate support, and purposeful work creates the foundation for true resilience. Listen now to discover how to protect your peace while pursuing your purpose.
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Matthew Lesko—you might remember him from his question mark suits and energetic infomercials—has transformed from a $20,000-per-client business consultant to a passionate advocate helping everyday Americans access billions in free government resources. His mission now? Building a community where people help each other navigate the complex world of grants, subsidies, and assistance programs.
The economic reality driving his work is stark. America has both more millionaires than any other developed nation and the highest poverty rate (17.2%) among wealthy countries. Over the past 50 years, wages for the bottom 90% of Americans have grown just 30% while inflation has soared 350%—a crushing disparity explaining why half of Americans can't handle a surprise $500 expense.
What makes this conversation genuinely eye-opening is the sheer range of available resources most people never discover. Did you know there are 51 healthcare programs that will pay you to train for high-demand jobs, cover your transportation and childcare costs, and even pay for your certification exams? Or that Habitat for Humanity offers homes at half price with zero-percent interest mortgages? From $100,000 grants for making and selling ice cream to programs offering free laptop computers, these opportunities exist in every community—if you know where to look.
Lesko's practical advice centers on two powerful strategies: find programs to help pay for expenses you already have, and discover legitimate opportunities to increase your income. His community at LetsGoHelp.com not only shares information but distributes approximately $50,000-$70,000 monthly in direct grants to members, including free laptops and emergency assistance for car repairs or housing.
The most valuable takeaway might be Lesko's approach to life itself: follow your passion, maintain your sense of humor, and remember that for every problem you face, there's likely free help available from people who've solved it before. Visit FindHelp.org or your local library to discover resources in your area, and remember—the government distributes nearly $19,000 in grant money per adult annually. Isn't it time you claimed your share?
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