In this 41st episode of Charting Change in Legal, Caroline Hill, Editor and Publisher of Legal IT Insider, and I discussed value-based billing, driving firmwide innovation, and cultivating a willingness to be engaged.

I was lucky to have many great conversations with industry leaders at the 2025 CLOC (Corporate Legal Operations Consortium) Global Institute, which I captured in this #ReinventingProfessionals #Mixtape 😀 Thanks to the following participants for sharing their insights:

I spoke with Hilary Bowman, a healthcare attorney, who is the Founder of Querious, an application that facilitates virtual lawyer-client conversations using generative AI. We discussed how artificial intelligence can help legal professionals optimize client conversations, the value of real-time legal insights, and how the attorney-client relationship is evolving.

I spoke with Ruchie Chadha, the President of Smokeball US, an AI-powered legal practice management software platform that helps small law firms stay organized, productive, and profitable. We discussed the importance of trust accounting, empowering lawyers by partnering with state bar associations, and leveraging technology to reshape the competitive landscape for solo practitioners and small firms.

I spoke with Matthew Rasmussen, the CEO, and Ryan Frye, the Chief Innovation Officer, at ModeOne, a targeted remote smartphone data collection provider. We discussed the risks involved in extracting company data from personal devices, the biggest misconceptions about mobile data collection, and how organizations can ensure their mobile data collection processes align with evolving privacy laws and regulatory requirements.

I spoke with Ted DeBettencourt, a Co-Founder of Juvo Leads, a company that provides human-powered chat services. We discussed the benefits of human-powered chat for law firms, use cases where prospective clients prefer technology to human interaction, and the mistakes professional services firms make when deploying human-powered chat.

I spoke with Uwais Iqbal, the Founder of Simplexico, a UK-based AI consulting firm helping legal teams with AI adoption. We discussed the most common use cases for generative AI, how legal professionals can maximize their use of generative AI, whether law firms should build or buy generative AI applications, and how the use of AI in law firms is evolving.

I spoke with Katya Fisher, CEO of Aracor, a software platform to streamline M&A, private equity, and venture capital transactions. We discussed the evolving M&A lifecycle, the changing relationship between in-house counsel and outside counsel, and how AI has changed M&A and corporate transactions.

I spoke with Danny Thankachan, the Head of Partnerships at CaseGuild, an AI-powered platform that finds key evidence in litigation. We discussed how legal teams can use artificial intelligence to find crucial evidence, ways that lawyers are currently trying to solve this problem, and the ideal users of this technology.

In this 40th episode of Charting Change in Legal, Caroline Hill, Editor and Publisher of Legal IT Insider, and I discussed bringing back boring, legal operations trends, and embracing automation.