Dr. Joe Simonet is a psychologist who studies the cultures of successful organizations to figure out what sets them apart. 

He examined the culture of The Refuge and identified four traits that help men who are struggling with addiction to find success.

Dr. Simonet joins Wes Thompson to discuss what he learned, and what he sees as the crucial elements of the culture at The Refuge. 

In this episode of the Relational Recovery podcast, hosts Wes Thompson and Austin Hill discuss what it means to have God at work in your life and the lives around you, especially for those in recovery.