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At the age of 16, Jacob Bosen faced the challenge of coming out as a gay man to his friends and family. But that challenge was soon overshadowed by the difficulties of enduring controversial ‘conversion therapy’ as well as a holistic practice not based in science. While his family had the best of intentions in taking him to this therapy, little did they know that the “therapist” had been forced to turn in his Chiropractic license in 1990 due to his “evil-spirit busting” claims. Now years later Jacob has gained insights about resilience, forgiveness, and self-acceptance which he shares with our Relentlessly Resilient hosts today.
Please note: This episode discusses conversion therapy. The teaching of the guest's therapeutic practitioner does not reflect current scientific or psychological research, or the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The opinions stated in this podcast are those of the hosts and guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of KSL Podcasts or any connected entities.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast.
Days before their 25th wedding anniversary, Lisa Valentine Clark lost her husband Christopher to Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS) after a four-year battle. While both Lisa and Clark had been big figures in the performing circle in their area, they were astonished and humbled by the support they got from the community, friends, family, and even strangers. While Chris slowly lost control of his body, his spirits remained high as he choose to keep ‘Living ‘til the end.” Together, their family leaned on faith, and just as they had heard time and time again in their improv classes, accepted the challenges thrown at them with a “Yes, and…” attitude. Lisa joins this episode of the Relentlessly Resilient podcast to share their story.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
In this second part of a two-part series, Gold Star spouse, author, motivational speaker, and Green Beret Foundation Veteran Service Officer Beth MacDonald continues her story and advice about tackling grief with humor and acceptance. She discusses moving forward in your story along with your grief, and turning that post-traumatic stress into post-traumatic growth.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
Bethanie MacDonald is a Gold Star spouse, author, motivational speaker, and Green Beret Foundation Veteran Service Officer. After losing her husband MSG Gregory Trent in 2012, she chose to continue living her life with humor and an openness to let people know they are not alone. Now she writes and shares her story of struggles and triumphs as she encourages resilience in others. She joins our Relentlessly Resilient hosts in this first part of a series, to share her insights.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
Corey Holmgren, a Chaplain Captian in the Utah Army National Guard as well as a Marriage and Family Therapist felt called to help individuals, serve his country, and support his family. But tragically at the age of 35, he passed away in a drowning incident while on a family outing. His wife Mindi now continues his calling with The Corey Holmgren Memorial Fund which provides therapy scholarships to those who need it most. Mindi joins this episode of Relentlessly Resilient to share her and Corey’s story, and how she has chosen to keep working and honoring ‘The sacredness found in suffering.”
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
On April 6, 2005, a U.S. Army CH-47 Chinook helicopter crashed in a windstorm in Afghanistan killing all five crew members along with 11 passengers. The call sign of the helicopter is the Windy25 and the commander of this 159th Aviation Regiment, Retired U.S. Army Major Craig Wilhelm, is keeping their memory and legacy alive with the Windy 25 Memorial Fund. Today as the Co-founder and Board President of the non-profit, Craig joins this episode of Relentlessly Resilient to share their story and how the fallen’s family, friends, and fellow soldiers are keeping their legacy alive today.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
There is a massive ripple effect on your life when you are widowed or lose ‘your person’ in one way or another. Often 'your person’ was your connection to friends, family, and acquaintances that somehow get lost as well. In this special cohost conversation episode of Relentlessly Resilient, hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf share their insights and struggles regarding that social circle fallout. And invite audience members to take a moment and reach out to those who have lost a loved one and let them know you still care.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
Previous guest Holly Crowley-Rabanne is back to discuss her hero father, and how we can celebrate those who put their lives on the line for National Police Week. While Holly’s dad, Lt. James “Jim” Crowley, did not die in the line of duty, he had a monumental 41-year career as an officer serving and protecting his community. He was instrumental in the Utah and National Fraternal Order of Police, helping to lift and protect his fellow officers and to celebrate their lives with the creation of the nation and state memorials. With National Police Week around the corner, and Utah’s memorial celebration happening soon, now is a great time to be inspired by the resilience of our ‘Lions on the blue line.” You can help support our officers by donating directly to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund or by adding the Utah FOP as your Amazon Smile rewards partner.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
April is the Month of the Military Child, and on today’s Relentlessly Resilient podcast our hosts talk to a military child turned Marine, turned father. Luke Brooks grew up in a household where both parents served in the Navy and inspired their children with their examples. Today, Luke shares what that was like, how it inspired him and his brother to serve, and raising his own children while serving. He shares with listeners how this experience taught him respect, resilience, and responsibility.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
Loss can often be an unexpected surprise. But even amid the grief and pain of losing a loved one, there can be a surprising oasis of comfort. For listener Ben Kauffmann the unexpected death of his father was tempered by the lessons of resilience he had gleaned while listening to the Relentless Resilient podcast. Today, he joins this episode to discuss how the show is helping him get through his own personal grief journey. While listeners heard a portion of this interview in our KSL Newsradio special, today we dive deeper into Ben’s story.
Even though we live in challenging times we can become Relentlessly Resilient as we lean on and learn from one another’s experiences. Hosts Jennie Taylor and Michelle Scharf are no strangers to overcoming adversity; Michelle lost her husband to cancer, while Jennie’s husband Major Brent Taylor was killed in the service of our country. Their stories bond them together and now listeners can join them weekly as they visit with others enduring challenges and who teach us how they are exercising resiliency, finding value in their grief, and purpose in moving forward.
Listen to the Relentlessly Resilient Podcast regularly on your favorite platform, at kslpodcasts.com, kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App. Join the Resilience conversation on Facebook at @RelentlesslyResilient and Instagram @RelentlesslyResilientPodcast. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.
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Relentlessly Resilient
Hosted by Chelle Rowan (formerly Michelle Scharf)
Every ending carries an invitation to rise.
On Relentlessly Resilient, host Chelle Rowan explores real stories of courage, healing, and transformation — reminding us that resilience isn’t about pushing through pain, but awakening through it.
After losing her husband to cancer, Chelle turned her grief into a mission: to hold space for others navigating life after loss, transition, and change. Through heartfelt conversations with guests who have walked through adversity, she uncovers the quiet strength and alchemy found in our most human moments.
This is a podcast for anyone learning to live, love, and begin again — with compassion, curiosity, and grace.
🎧 Subscribe and join the journey of awareness, healing, and becoming.