Reliabilityweb Radio speaks with Aveva's Sean Gregerson and Justin Thomas about their unique proces of taking industrial data coupled with forward thinking technologies like AI and human insight to create usful performance intelligence. They discuss the rapid changes of technology from the industrial revolution to industry 4.0 where data rules. They ask the questions - will the metaverse change everything in such a way that it creates industry 5.0? How do we get into the metaverse?