"When I'm writing music & lyrics, the best thing I can do is just empty my head...that's the best way to make art that is authentic."

In this episode Pepe talks with John Warmb of the band Rent Strike. They discuss the hug John & Pepe shared when they first met, time, solitude vs. solitary confinement, the psychological value of alchemy, the problem with hiding things in your shadow/unconscious, the ego's struggle admitting the power of the unconscious exist & much more.

HIGHLIGHTS:

• John & Pepe's hug
• Making & breaking bread
• Thoughts on Covid (inside prison & in the "free" world)
• John asks Pepe about his biggest struggle being in solitary confinement
• Pepe tells John about "ghost drugs"
• Self inflicted prisons can be far worse than physical, government operated prisons
• Alchemy & inner work
• John & Pepe discuss what they think is one of the most important things anyone can do in life

Connect with Rent Strike:

instagram.com/rent__strike/

rentstrikenow.com/

Read Pepe's response (written from prison) to John's question about "Time"

preparingforfreedom.org/2021/05/02/reader-question-have-you-changed-your-relationship-to-time-since-entering-the-system/

Read Pepe's "The Gift Of Coffee" blog post John also mentioned in this episode

preparingforfreedom.org/2021/12/15/the-gift-of-coffee/

Back On The Grind Records - DIY & folk punk music merch:

backonthegrindrecords.bandcamp.com/music

Check out Pepe's new project:

STAY FREE COFFEE ROASTERS

StayFreeCoffee.com

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