The Packers finally lost a game, and Paul, JR, and Matt are here to discuss why. This includes heaping praise on Todd Bowles, Lavonte David, Devin White, and Carlton Davis, while quantifying the continued failure of Preston Smith.  They also explain the strengths and limits of pre-snap motion, the relative importance of Tyler Ervin, the big issue with lack of receiver depth, and the challenge that faces Matt LaFleur going forward.

All of that, plus Mike Pettine on the hot seat, the continued availability of Wade Phillips, a preview of the Texans, Bill O’Brien’s greatest hits, and listener questions!

Intro: Dreamweaver - Gary Wright

Outro: Hold On - Wilson Phillips