In this episode, we sit down with Sounil Yu, Co-Founder and CTO at Knostic, a security company focusing on need-to-know-based access controls for LLM-based Enterprise AI.

Sounil is a recognized industry security leader and the author of the widely popular Cyber Defense Matrix.

Sounil and I dug into a lot of interesting topics, such as:

• The latest news with DeepSeek and some of its implications regarding broader AI, cybersecurity, and the AI arms race, most notably between China and the U.S.
• The different approaches to AI security and safety we’re seeing unfold between the U.S. and EU, with the former being more best-practice and guidance-driven and the latter being more rigorous and including hard requirements.
• The age-old concept of need-to-know access control, the role it plays, and potentially new challenges implementing it when it comes to LLM’s
• Organizations rolling out and adopting LLMs and how they can go about implementing least-permissive access control and need-to-know
• Some of the different security considerations between
• Some of the work Knostic is doing around LLM enterprise readiness assessments, focusing on visibility, policy enforcement, and remediation of data exposure risks

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