In this conversation, Chris interviews Elizabeth Pol, the founder of Resilient Heroes, about the importance of addressing officer trauma and police suicide. They discuss the need for a different approach to training and education on trauma and suicide, focusing on interactive conversations and scenario-based training. Elizabeth shares her experience as a Chicago police officer and her work in suicide psychological autopsies, emphasizing the importance of understanding risk factors and indicators of suicide. They also discuss the challenges of addressing mental health and wellness in the law enforcement community and the need for self-advocacy and resources for first responders. Elizabeth's organization, Resilient Heroes, aims to provide psychoeducation and support to first responders and agencies across the United States.