On this week’s show, we listen to a wide ranging conversation between best-selling author and journalist Naomi Klein and comedian Aamer Rahman. Recorded just days after Donald Trump won the 2016 US presidential election, they discuss race and the colonial mindset in a post-Trump world and reflect on what this means for environmental organising in Australia and Canada. You can watch the full conversation - and many more - at the Wheeler Centre's website. Earth Matters #1134 was produced by Teishan Ahearne.