253: Responding to Ken Schaap's Podcast on Church Hurt + Breaking Down the Week's Headlines

01:22:20 – On August 1st, Robert Lazzell, former principal of First Baptist School and a deacon at First Baptist Church, was sentenced to 12 years in prison after pleading guilty to Criminal Sexual Assault against former student Michael Young. It’s important to note that Lazzell is the third prominent former staff member to be charged with sexual crimes against minors since the late 90s. Source: https://vermilioncountyfirst.com/2023/08/18/protesters-outside-first-baptist-church-call-for-accountability-in-aftermath-of-lazzell-sentencing/?fbclid=IwAR1fbriIQlW92_iFLCUJtaIWxkEIKYQ9WhMLsGftQpjIZX2uFWf1dJMae8U 02:35:20 – The Kenosha County Eye reports that in the early morning of August 10th at a Somers Walmart, an individual was reportedly observed fully naked, standing next to a black truck, masturbating. The Kenosha County Sheriff's Department made an arrest and the individual was later identified as 57-year-old Pastor Thomas Bartmer. Thomas Bartmer, as per his website (which has now been largely wiped) has been a pastor at Lighthouse Church in Antioch, IL. His journey into the ministry began with a Lutheran upbringing, and his history is marked by his involvement in various churches, where he held leadership roles, including teaching, preaching, and working with community programs. He began Lighthouse Baptist Church on Sept 6th, 1997, and on March 27th, 1999, Lighthouse constituted as a self-sustaining church and was granted official membership in the Illinois Baptist State Association and the Southern Baptist Convention. Source: https://kenoshacountyeye.com/2023/08/12/local-pastor-arrested-at-somers-walmart-for-masturbating-naked-in-parking-lot/ 04:16:21 – News3 reports: “Robert Stine, 60, faces two felony charges of first-degree child sex assault - sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 13, online court records show. In July, Pastor Stine of Midvale Baptist Church had his license revoked for operating the church's Kid's Best child care facility in June. This action followed an inquiry by the Wisconsin Department of Children and Families and the Madison Police Department. A young girl reported that Stine assaulted her on three separate occasions. Source: https://www.channel3000.com/news/madison-pastor-charged-with-child-sexual-assault/article_5d6fddde-3d49-11ee-a71b-f332c6de0680.html

07:14:21 – There is no shortage of unhelpful commentary and discourse surrounding clergy abuse. This week I caught wind of two particularly terrible examples from higher-profile voices adjacent to the IFB. One was from Shelly Hamilton – wife of the late Ron Hamilton, who created the popular Patch the Pirate children’s character. The other was from Ken Schaap's Podcast: https://youtu.be/Pi5xIcOn4RQ ________________ Support the Preacher Boys Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/preacherboys

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