Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast

Restoring Trust in Our Elections


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Nothing is arguably more fundamental to a democracy than voting. But it's not enough to have a secure election. The electorate also needs to trust that the results are valid. In the United States today, that trust is in short supply - many people believe that the 2020 election was rigged. On one hand, many of our electronic voting systems are demonstrably insecure and trivially capable of being hacked. On the other, our cybersecurity experts, government agencies and election officials are telling us that the 2020 election was one of the most secure in US history and voter fraud almost never happens. So which is it? How do we reconcile these two seemingly incongruent positions?
Today I'll ask these questions and more of computer and election security guru Harri Hursti. Harri has investigated and hacked several popular election systems used in the US and runs the Voting Machine Hacking Village at the annual DEF CON hacking conference. He's also officially observed many elections around the world and participated in several high profile audits. As if that weren't enough, Harri's been featured in two separate HBO documentaries on election security and is co-founder of the Election Integrity Foundation. I met Harri at DEF CON 29 and I was thrilled when he agreed to come on the show.
Further Info
Harri Hursti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harri_Hursti Election Integrity Foundation https://electionintegrityfoundation.org/ California voting system review (“top to bottom”): https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-systems/oversight/top-bottom-review Ohio voting system review (“Everest”): https://www.eac.gov/documents/2017/03/21/everest-report-state-voting-systems-voting-technology New Hampshire election audit: http://doj.nh.gov/sb43/documents/20210713-sb43-forensic-audit-report.pdf Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America's Elections (HBO documentary, 2020) https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/kill-chain-the-cyber-war-on-americas-elections Hacking Democracy (HBO documentary, 2006) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_gb_w_L9NE Election Administration and Voting Survey 2020: https://www.eac.gov/research-and-data/studies-and-reports Voluntary Voting System Guidelines: https://www.eac.gov/voting-equipment/voluntary-voting-system-guidelines CISA, Election Security Rumor vs Reality: https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol 2020 election security reports: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/its-official-election-was-secure DEF CON 25 Voting Machine Hacking Village Report: https://archive.org/download/DEFCON25VotingVillageReport/DEF%20CON%2025%20voting%20village%20report.pdf Become a Patron! https://www.patreon.com/FirewallsDontStopDragons Would you like me to speak to your group about security and/privacy? http://bit.ly/Firewalls-SpeakerGenerate secure passphrases! https://d20key.com/#/
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