Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Dan Caporello here with Sam Wagers, Shannon Eno and John Cummins, Special Guest Ryan (Games With Coffee) Intros

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming FE Path of Radiance and Armored Core 2

On Topic Retro: Zelda Skyward Sword Retro Rewind Super Castlevania IV

Gradius

Backlog recap

The Price Is Retro - 13:55

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Dan's List Sam's list John's List

Shannon's List

Spot the fake Pikmin treasure

Show Topic -

5

Puzzle games

SameGame/CHAINSHOT (1985)

Tetris and all its iterations (what's your favorite?)

(1988)

The many attempts to make a real "sequel" to tetris (or market something unrelated as one)

Tetris 2/Tetris Flash (1993)

Breakthru (1994)

Tetris attack (1996)

3D tetris (1996)

Tetrisphere (1997)

Pajitnov's other puzzle games:

Welltris (1989)

Hatris (1990)

Faces…tris III (1990) Wordtris (1992)

Never had the staying power of the original

The other titans of the genre:

Columns (1989)

Dr Mario (1990)

Puyo Puyo (1991)

Yoshi (1991)

Vs Puzzle games really took off

Cosmo gang the puzzle (1992)

Yoshi's Cookie (1992)

Wario's woods (1994)

Bomberman Panic bomber (1994)

Puzzle bobble (1994)

Panel De pon (1995)

Magical Drop (1995)

Super Puzzle Fighter II turbo (1996)

(characters actually have unique patterns they send to opponents)

Largely fell out of fashion, but seem to be coming back

Dr. Luigi (2013)

Puyo Puyo Tetris (2014)

Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (2020)

Tetris effect: connected (2020)

Tetris 99 (2019)

Crystal Crisis (2019)

Licensing opportunities (some already mentioned), spinoffs

Aforementioned puzzle fighter, yoshi's cookie, dr mario, puyo puyo

Dr Robotnik's mean bean machine (1993)

Pac attack (1993)

Panel de pon's "tetris attack" and "pokemon puzzle league" forms

Kirby's avalanche (1995)

Hebereke's Popoitto (1994)

Kirby Star Stacker (1997)

Rampage Puzzle Attack (2001)

Pokemon Trozei (2005)

Puzzle & dragons Super mario edition (2015)

Snood (1996)

This game is on like every platform. I'm not sure how it displaced puzzle bobble but it did.

Bejeweled (2001)

Bejeweled-likes (Zoo Keeper, Jewel Quest, Chuzzle)

Meteos (2005)

Mobile as the new haven for matching puzzle games

Block puzzle hybrids

Block Hole/Quarth

Puzzle Quest

Puzzle & Dragons

Henry Hatsworth

Suika game (2024)

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Savannah the Hyena Queen — 5/29/2026 9:27 PMFriday, May 29, 2026 9:27 PM

Does Mario's Super Picross count? That game is fun, specially the Wario levels

Savannah the Hyena Queen — 5/29/2026 9:30 PM

I'm really bad at picross so my clear times are abysmal, but it's still a really relaxing loop that's nice if I don't really want to play something more involved

Your Wallet's Defense Attorney — 5/29/2026 9:33 PM

Mario's Super Picross is what got me into Picross, a past time I have become thoroughly engrossed. It's the perfect thing to do while paying attention to something else. In fact, I used to catch up on Retro Logic episodes while playing Mario's Super Picross...

SNES_is_Life — 5/29/2026 9:44 PM

Yoshis cookie!

Drex1981 [ARC], — 5/30/2026 9:37 AM

I don't know if this counts or not but in the original Metal Gear Solid when fighting Psycho Mantis. You had to switch to controller port 2 to avoid being controlled by him.

Thanks for listening to the RetroLogic Podcast! We are proudly part of the Nintendo Dads family of podcasts. If you like what you hear, check me out on Bluesky at @retrologicgames.bsky.social. You're also welcome to jump into our friendly and 100% non-toxic Discord Community! The link to that is in my Blusky bio.

You can also find everything on our website Retrologic.games

Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Dan Caporello here with Sam Wagers and John Cummins, Special Guest Ryan (Games With Coffee) Intros

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming

On Topic Retro: Zelda Skyward Sword Retro Rewind Super Castlevania IV

Gradius

The Price Is Retro - 13:55

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Dan's List Sam's list John's List

Ryan's List

Show Topic -

1:07:40

1:10:20

Starfox

Star Fox - SNES

NA: March 1, 1993

developed by Nintendo EAD and programmed by Argonaut Games, who created the Super FX chip to enable the 3D graphics seen in the game.

Star Fox 64 - N64

NA: July 1, 1997

Developed by Nintendo EAD.

Star Fox 64 was the first game to feature support for the Rumble Pak peripheral.

Star Fox Adventures - GCN

NA: September 22, 2002

The last game developed by second-party Nintendo developer Rare before its acquisition by Microsoft.

Star Fox: Assault - GCN

NA: February 14, 2005

Developed by Namco

Originally slated to be developed by the Ace Combat team, but that version was allegedly scrapped and the Klonoa team took over instead. In an unusual twist, the game as we know it began development in the multiplayer mode.

Star Fox Command - DS

NA: August 28, 2006

Developed by Q-Games.

Directed by Dylan Cuthbert, who previously served as a lead programmer of the original Star Fox and 64 at Argonaut.

According to Cuthbert, Miyamoto approached him and his company because he wanted to see more of the ideas from the then-unreleased Star Fox 2 (who Cuthbert was heavily involved with during its development)

Star Fox 64 3D - 3DS

NA: September 11, 2011

Developed by Nintendo EAD

"At the annual E3 event during the Nintendo Q&A session held in June 2011, Miyamoto jokingly stated that he warned the developers that if Star Fox 64 3D was not the best game in the series, or did not make a lot of money, the franchise would have to be discontinued." Star Fox Zero - Wii U

NA/EU: April 22, 2016

Developed by PlatinumGames

A "reimagining" of Starfox 64

The game's development began with experimentation on leftover assets from a never-released Star Fox game for the Wii that had been worked on by a small group since about 2008.

Star Fox 2 - SNES

NA/EU: September 29, 2017

Release years by system:

Cancelled – Super Nintendo Entertainment System

2017 – Super NES Classic Edition

2019 – Nintendo Switch Online

Developed by Argonaut Games.

Was originally canceled due to its proposed release date's proximity with the release of the Nintendo 64 and internal development problems.

Star Fox - Switch 2

JP/NA/EU: June 25, 2026

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Thanks for listening to the RetroLogic Podcast! We are proudly part of the Nintendo Dads family of podcasts. If you like what you hear, check me out on Bluesky at @retrologicgames.bsky.social. You're also welcome to jump into our friendly and 100% non-toxic Discord Community! The link to that is in my Blusky bio.

You can also find everything on our website Retrologic.games

Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with Shannon Eno and John Cummins

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core Master of Arena (Mon) and Path of Radiance Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Skyward Sword Retro Rewind Super Castlevania IV

FilmLogic: Tubi Decided: Redline (2009)

The Price Is Retro -

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list John's List

Trivia

Show Topic -

• 3DS Top 5

Thanks for listening to the RetroLogic Podcast! We are proudly part of the Nintendo Dads family of podcasts. If you like what you hear, check me out on Bluesky at @retrologicgames.bsky.social. You're also welcome to jump into our friendly and 100% non-toxic Discord Community! The link to that is in my Blusky bio.

You can also find everything on our website Retrologic.games

Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with Shannon Eno and John Cummins

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core Master of Arena (Mon) and Path of Radiance Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Skyward Sword Retro Rewind Super Castlevania IV

FilmLogic: Tubi Decided: Redline (2009)

The Price Is Retro - 20

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list John's List

Spot the fake

Trivia

Show Topic - 30:54

• Rentals!

• Favorite rentals

• Sam: (Kirby Super Star, Joe and Mac, Paper Mario, Vigilante 8, Rogue Squadron, Chameleon Twist, PLOK)

• Bullets dodged (glad I didn't purchase fully)

• Sam: Balls 3D, Mega Man 64, Quest 64

• The place of rentals

• Games expensive

• Not allowed in japan (this affected some games!)

• Alternatives new and old

• Libraries

• Gamefly

• redbox

• Digital demos

• Gamepass and NSO free trials

• Free to play/Free to start games

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Eric Plunk [nDAD], nDAD — 4/19/2026 9:30 AMSunday, April 19, 2026 9:30 AM

The small town I grew up in had one gas station and in it you could rent VHS tapes and video games. Just roaming the isles and looking at cover art was a joy in and of itself. There was no way to have a bad weekend when you went home with Fievel Goes West, Bugs Bunny's Crazy Castle, and a bottle of Yoo-Hoo. If I had to guess I'd say my most rented games were Ducktales and A Link to the Past. I inherited a copy of Back to the Future II & III for the NES from a friend that passed that still has rental sticker on it from the gas station. I'll never get rid of it. (edited)Sunday, April 19, 2026 9:42 AM

Drex1981 [ARC], ARC — 4/19/2026 9:34 AMSunday, April 19, 2026 9:34 AM

I remember waiting at my local Hollywood Video for Mortal Kombat 4. I went back and forth to store throughout the day and when I got it the game was terrible lol

SchonerTod [TINK], TINK — 4/19/2026 9:54 AMSunday, April 19, 2026 9:54 AM

i didnt get into renting game until the N64. When I was a kid video games were always a side thing we did on the weekends and typically it was a sleep over. so friday evening my buddies and i would ride our bikes down to the local blockbuster and rented a couple games then hit up the local store for sodas and pizza before going back to my place and playing an all nighter. Typically it was stuff like 007, mario kart, perfect dark nfl blitz and such.

Xomber — 4/19/2026 10:01 AMSunday, April 19, 2026 10:01 AM

My first rentals were N64 games as well. I think they forced me to get better at the games, since I knew I had to give them back or some such. I remember being unable to finish OOT the first time(couldn't get out of the forest) and the second time I made it to the Water Temple. After that, I was good at the game I think.

Eric Plunk [nDAD], nDAD — 4/19/2026 11:07 AMSunday, April 19, 2026 11:07 AM

I don't have many memories of renting N64 games other than Paper Mario from Blockbuster which I beat in two 5-day rental periods (edited)Sunday, April 19, 2026 11:08 AM

@Solo

Growing up I would rent from one, not sure if it was across the nation in the 80's, that was called National Home Video. I would rent NES games weekly as games back then were pricey so parents only bought me like 4. Point being here that one time we went out of town for 2 weeks to Myrtle Beach vacation. When we got back my parents laughed as the recording had a message from the store asking if I was ok as they have not heard from me wanting to know what game to reserve for me to make sure it was not rented out before me.

Your Wallet's Defense Attorney — 4/19/2026 4:08 PMSunday, April 19, 2026 4:08 PM

I never rented. But I did take some games out at the library. The only one I really remember is Super Mario Galaxy. I remember erasing my save file for the next person, because I was under the impression it was stored on the disc...

DoubleD — 4/19/2026 5:46 PMSunday, April 19, 2026 5:46 PM

Renting movies and games was a regular occurrence in my house growing up, probably every other weekend or so. We rented games mainly from NES, SNES, and N64, but I have the fondest memories of the SNES era. I remember renting Final Fantasy 3 for a couple weeks when it first released, knowing full well that I was about to get it for my birthday a couple months afterwards. Well, I got to a point in the game where it seems like it's the end, but it's really just the mid-point, but I remember being so mad thinking I was about to beat the game right before I get it for my birthday. After opening up the second half of the game, I was so happy that there was more to it, that I stupidly rented the game for another week, but still didn't beat it. I then got it for my birthday and tried to trade my copy for the rental store's, but they wouldn't do it, so I spent the entire Christmas break playing through my new copy and beat it in 2 weeks.

Thanks for listening to the RetroLogic Podcast! We are proudly part of the Nintendo Dads family of podcasts. If you like what you hear, check me out on Bluesky at @retrologicgames.bsky.social. You're also welcome to jump into our friendly and 100% non-toxic Discord Community! The link to that is in my Blusky bio.

You can also find everything on our website Retrologic.games

Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with Shannon Eno and John Cummins

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks

FilmLogic: RatPocalypse

The Price Is Retro - 20

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list John's List

SPOT THE FAKE

Show Topic - 44

3D Mario!

The games

• Super Mario 64 - 1996

• Super Mario Sunshine - 2002

• Super Mario 64 DS -2004

• Super Mario Galaxy - 2007

• Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 2010

• Super Mario 3D Land - 2010

• Super Mario 3D World - 2013

• Super Mario Odyssey - 2017

• Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury - 2021

• ?????? - The future

Some other points:

• Our favorites

• "Obstacle Course" vs. "Open World-ish" Design

• Ideas for the future of 3D Mario

• Does DK Bananza Scratch the itch?

• 3D Yoshi….

Community Couch

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Dan - RetroLogic — 4/3/2026 12:04 AMFriday, April 3, 2026 12:04 AM

The best is probably Mario Galaxy.

But my favorite is Sunshine.

1 - Mario Sunshine pushed the "themed worlds" motif in a wholly new direction that hasn't been replicated since. All locations take place on 1 Island, and they never lose that aesthetic. But each world also has its own striking identity.

2 - "What are we going to do to Mario so it feels different from 64?" Give him a water gun/jet pack/rocket/speed boat. And the Splatoon-like muck cleaning is one of the most satisfying things in gaming to date.

3 - the major complaint I hear about this game is the few difficulty spikes which inform the unfinished nature of the shipped product. And I don't disagree. But I believe this game is worth more than the sum of it's parts. Isle Delphino is a place I want to live in. The secrets hiding in Delphino Plaza alone make this game worth playing.

Your Wallet's Defense Attorney — 4/3/2026 12:33 AMFriday, April 3, 2026 12:33 AM

Gotta go with Galaxy. My first 3D Mario was Super Mario Galaxy 2. For a long time the original Super Mario Galaxy was a game I had only gotten to play once, through the library. Which definitely added to the mystique of the game. The quiet moments in that game really make it's vibe, and they're something I think the Galaxy movie could have used. Also, the gravity stuff is probably my favorite mechanic in any Mario game.

Gotta give some flowers to Sunshine though. Not my favorite game to actually play, but I love a lot of what it was going for. I love the interconnected world, and the fact they decided to zoom in really close to one theme. Really think it'd be cool to see another Mario game do something like that, maybe with a city or something like that? Also, you won't hear many people give the blue coins a lotta love, cause they were implemented in such a completionist unfriendly way. And as a completionist, that does suck, but I can't deny that they really give you a nice reason to explore the island. Also, I really like that each of the levels tries to tell a storyline with its missions. Almost feels like a precursor to what Odyssey would end up doing.

neoprime33 (TimA) [nDAD], nDAD — 4/3/2026 1:12 AMFriday, April 3, 2026 1:12 AM

The best, I've been told, is Galaxy, but I haven't played those, so the best for me is 3D Land. It's literately in 3D ... lol.

I can't articulate why it is the best for me as well as you all do with your "bests" but that 3D Mario game made me smile and probably was the most I've ever wanted to squeeze out of a Mario game than any other I've played before.

Maybe it is the best for me because it is the "Gateway Drug" for other 3D Marios - it eases me away from 2D Marios. lol

Although, I also support the Mario Sunshine pick - I loved playing that game on the Game Cube. It was so different I didn't care that Mario went 3D.

Hootz — 4/3/2026 9:27 AMFriday, April 3, 2026 9:27 AM

Best: Super Mario Odyssey. That game is pure joy distilled into a video game. And honestly, the other games are great, but it's not even close. (Please note; I'm answering before I've had a chance to play Super Mario Odyssey 2: Donkey Kong Bananza)

As for the next entry, just give us more joy. That's it. Don't know what that means gameplay-wise, so I'll let the developers figure that out.

Also, Super Mario Sunshine is underrated, and better than Super Mario Galaxy and 64. That is all.

Thanks for listening to the RetroLogic Podcast! We are proudly part of the Nintendo Dads family of podcasts. If you like what you hear, check me out on Bluesky at @retrologicgames.bsky.social. You're also welcome to jump into our friendly and 100% non-toxic Discord Community! The link to that is in my Blusky bio.

You can also find everything on our website Retrologic.games

Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with Shannon Eno and John Cummins

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks

FilmLogic: Armed and Dangerous

Backlog Challenge Round 2 Results:

We're letting the community decide which games we play for round 2 of our backlog challenge! Sam

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (Xbox)

Glory of Heracles (DS)

Zak and Wiki: the quest for Barbaros Treasure (Wii)

Shannon

Secret of Mana (SNES)

Kirby and the Amazing Mirror (GBA)

Harvest Moon (SNES)

John

Final Fantasy

Grandia II

Drill Dozer

Dan- Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon (DS)

The Price Is Retro -

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list John's List

Flightsy's Spot the Fake

Show Topic - 4

Dungeon Crawlers!

What is a dungeon crawler anyway? -loosely, focus on a single dungeon - though perhaps with interconnected zones. And exploring it while powering up a character/party and gathering loot, going deeper each time.

Inherited term from a scenario type in tabletop rpgs. The term has been used somewhat loosely of any game that has a dungeon though. Games: Wizardry Series- probably the main archetype

-hard to understate the impact these games had on RPGs generally, especially in Japan.

Rogue - better known for other elements

Eye of the Beholder (SNES)

Arcana

Neverwinter Nights (AOL 1991 - not the later one so much)

Mado monogatari (technically Puyo Puyo is a spinoff of this)

The Bard's Tale Trilogy

Many (but not all?) Might and Magic games

Early Elder Scrolls games (Arena and Daggerfall)-Dungeon Crawls with basic overworld content in Arena that grew in Daggerfall, but retained the Dungeon Crawling

Princess Tomato 🙂

Etrian odyssey - keeping this old-school style genre alive- and developing it further

-Retro in the truest sense of the word.

The interesting aspects here (IMO):

Party Customization

Mapping/exploration - another layer of progression

Challenging/strategic turn based battles

EO made mapping a gameplay mechanic

More:

Shining in the darkness

Megami Tensei: Strange Journey

Persona Q Labyrinth

https://dungeoncrawlers.org/games/ (ngl I have very little familiarity with almost all of these)

It's kind of like shmups, a really niche old genre that is rare these days, but has a following.

These days, mainstream RPGs almost always opt for the "open world" approach.

Games I have seen called dungeon crawlers but question that nomenclature:

The Legend of Zelda

Diablo

Enter the Gungeon

Hades

Mystery Dungeon

Arx Fatalis

Slay the Spire

Darkest dungeon

X-Men Legends and Ultimate Alliance

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Thanks for listening to the RetroLogic Podcast! We are proudly part of the Nintendo Dads family of podcasts. If you like what you hear, check me out on Bluesky at @retrologicgames.bsky.social. You're also welcome to jump into our friendly and 100% non-toxic Discord Community! The link to that is in my Blusky bio.

You can also find everything on our website Retrologic.games

Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with John Cummis and Shannon Eno

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks

FilmLogic: The Guyver

The Price Is Retro -

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list John's List

Rampage -

Sam's Spot the Fake

Backlog Challenge Round 2: Community Vote

We're letting the community decide which games we play for round 2 of our backlog challenge! Vote on discord before next show! Sam

Grabbed by the Ghoulies (Xbox)

Glory of Heracles (DS)

Zak and Wiki: the quest for Barbaros Treasure (Wii)

Shannon

Secret of Mana (SNES)

Kirby and the Magic Mirror (GBA)

Harvest Moon (SNES)

John

Final Fantasy

Grandia II

Drill Dozer

Show Topic - 37:30 44:18

Fire Emblem used to be good: (I'm trolling)

Our history with the series:

Games list and timeline: Japan era: 1990 [FE1] Shadow Dragon and the Blade of light (Famicom) 1992 [FE2] Gaiden (Famicom)

1994 [FE3] Mystery of the Emblem (SFC) (remake + of FE1)

1996 [FE4] Genealogy of the Holy War (SFC)

1999 [FE5] Thracia 776 (SFC)

Yes, those are the actual release dates for super famicom. They just ignored the N64.

Shozou Kaga leaves Intelligent systems in 1999 after Thracia releases, founds Tirnanog as an independent studio to create TearRing Saga. (very similar to fire emblem)

International era (classic)

2001 Smash Bros. Melee introduces the world to Marth and Roy

2002 [FE6] The Binding Blade (Ok, this one didn't release outside japan) (GBA)

2003 [FE7] The Blazing Blade (AKA "Fire Emblem") (GBA)

2004 [FE8] The Sacred Stones (GBA)

2005 [FE9] Path of Radiance (GC)

2007 [FE10] Radiant Dawn (Wii)

2008 [FE11] Shadow Dragon (DS) remake of FE1

2010 [FE12] New Mystery of the Emblem (DS) remake of FE3 Japan only

Awakening

2012 [FE13] Fire Emblem Awakening 3DS

2015 [FE14] Fates 3DS

2015 [] Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (Wii U)

2017 Heroes (mobile)

2017 [FE15] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia (3DS) - Remake of FE2

2019 [FE16] Three Houses (switch)

2020 [] Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore (Switch)

2022 Fire Emblem Warriors: 3 hopes (switch)

2023 [FE17] Engage (switch)

2025 Shadows (mobile)

2026 [FE18] Fortune's Weave - Switch 2

Some thoughts:

What makes Fire emblem Fire emblem? Has that answer changed in each era?

https://www.animelyrics.com/game/fireemblem/fireemblemcm.htm

-Is Tellius all that different?

Comparing:

-Permanent death vs. casual mode - game design

-Character design/aesthetics

-Player Avatars

-Character Relationships

-Map design

-Newer gimmicks (combat arts, squadrons, emblem rings, dragon veins, pair up)

-Grindability (arena, optional maps, bonus exp)

-reclassing

Series future:

-Remakes of FE4, FE5, FE6?

-What direction would it take to win Sam back?

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Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with John Cummis and Shannon Eno

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

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Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance (Sat) Ham Ham Heartbreak Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass/ Spirit Tracks

RetroGroove:Albums of the year: 1975, 1985, 1995, 2005, 2015, 2025

FilmLogic: The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai

The Price Is Retro - 17:40

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list

John's List

Rampage

Sam's Spot the Fake

Show Topic- Game Genres

Pokemon Leaf Green and Fire Red on Nintendo Switch

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Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Dan Caporello here with John Cummis and Shannon Eno and Sam Wagers, alongside special guest: author of the Definitive Book of SNES RPGs vol 1 Moses Norton AKA The Well Red Mage

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

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- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

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Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance (Sat) Ham Ham Heartbreak Saturday!

On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass

RetroGroove:Albums of the year: 1975, 1985, 1995, 2005, 2015, 2025

FilmLogic: The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai

The Price Is Retro - 17:40

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list Dan's list - 1 John's List - 1

Moses List - 2 Rampage - 1

Sam's Spot the Fake

Break: 50:10

Show Topic- Game Genres

WRM - How did you choose what games to include in the book? (What is an RPG anyway?)

RPG Edge cases - discuss

What's the point of classifying genres anyway?

-group like things together

-help people find more things they like

-Is Game genre the same sort of thing as genre in other media?(film, literature, art, cuisine)

-notably, some other media can distinguish genre from things like "movements" (landscape is a genre, cubism is a movement)

–for that matter, does food have genres?

How different genres get defined: (maybe)

JRPG vs CRPG: (?)

Broad focus : Action, strategy, puzzle, Adventure, Stealth, Racing

Mechanical elements: (turn based strategy vs. real time strategy)

Camera? (1st person shooter vs third person shooter)

Theming/aesthetics: Horror, Cozy(?), Sports(?)

Newer genre terms: Metroidvania, Roguelike/Roguelite, MOBA, Soulslike

Platform Fighter (sometimes tied to claims about smash bros. legitimacy as a competitive fighter

What do we call Culdcept/Dokapon/Fortune Street?

Genre Hybrids: are these genres or just descriptors?

NES color guide:

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Welcome to RetroLogic! I'm Sam Wagers here with John Cummis and Shannon Eno and Dan Caporello

But RetroLogic isn't just a podcast. It's a community of retro gamers! - We've got an active, friendly, and free discord.

- Giveaways

- Contests

- AND Dive into our family of Retro podcasts! Like RetroGroove, a music history podcast, and On Topic Retro, a podcast dedicated to 1 video game per episode hosted by our very own John Cummins.

- you can find everything at our website retrologic.games

Tell me one thing that happened this week!

Housekeeping

Sam: Streaming Armored Core (Mon) and Path of Radiance (Sat)

On Topic Retro: Zelda Phantom Hourglass

RetroGroove:Albums of the year: 1975, 1985, 1995, 2005, 2015, 2025

FilmLogic: Woodchipper Massacre

13:38

The Price Is Retro

If this is your first time playing Price Is Retro, here's how we play. I'm going to list off 4 or 5 games and everyone has to guess how much the lot is worth in total. Whoever is closest to the actual value wins that round! Everyone has a list and everyone guesses on each other's list. At the end, the player that won the most rounds wins the episode! But watch out for the robot Deus Guess Machina! He averages all of our guesses together for his own guess Dinosaur - Leonard - adds up original costs, retail value

Ghost - Polterguest - always guesses 300

Shan's list

Sam's list 11 Dan's list John's List 1

Sam's Spot the Fake

Shannon's SNES Trivia game

50:00

Show Topic

SN Operator by epilogue

Preorders are (currently sold out :()

Super Scope and Mouse support! (using computer mouse)

Retro Achievements!

Save backups

Authentication

ROM loading from cartridge

Supports multiple controllers for 2player

Enhancement chips (Super FX, SA-1, DSP, CX4, etc.)

Virtual Boy Coming to NSO

Coming Feb 17

Galactic Pinball

Teleroboxer

RED ALARM

Virtual Boy Wario Land

3-D Tetris

Golf

The Mansion of Innsmouth

Coming later:

Mario Clash

Mario's Tennis

Jack Bros.

Space Invaders Virtual Collection

Virtual Bowling

Vertical Force

V-Tetris

Zero Racers (previously unreleased)

D-Hopper (previously unreleased)

Rewind, Screen color choices

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I know I have my absolute favorite game franchises, but I'll also go through phases where I fixate on a series and collect/play those games for a period of time. What are your favorites of all time and what are your current obsessions?

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